Les Minquiers

Hi JSYmartini,

I can't see the pics you post. I can see others, but not yours. Instead, there's a notice against each one stating 'Sorry, this person moved or deleted this image'

Any ideas?

Indeed, thet were there a day or so ago?
 
Hmm, I only just signed up to photo bucket to host them the other day, I shall look into it.
No doubt they'll want my credit card details to continue...:mad:
 
Yes, a few of the later ones are still there. I wonder if it's to do with me organising albums etc on photo bucket, I moved a few photo's into a new album so maybe the links have changed.
 
Yes, a few of the later ones are still there. I wonder if it's to do with me organising albums etc on photo bucket, I moved a few photo's into a new album so maybe the links have changed.

That's more than likely to be the cause. By the way, my Dad and many generations before him were Jersey. Can you (or more likely your parents) remember Luce's Eau de Cologne at 42 King Street?
 
Hi JSYmartini,

I can't see the pics you post. I can see others, but not yours. Instead, there's a notice against each one stating 'Sorry, this person moved or deleted this image'

Any ideas?
Fixed :o

That's more than likely to be the cause. By the way, my Dad and many generations before him were Jersey. Can you (or more likely your parents) remember Luce's Eau de Cologne at 42 King Street?

I remember you telling me when I bought my S-0A, I'll have to ask my mum, before my time I think! I'll look out for 42 next time and see what's there now. Edit: JD Sports :(
 
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It is largely forgotten now that after the last war France laid claim to Les Minquiers and L'Ecrehos. Ultimately the UK and France jointly laid the matter before the International Court of Justice whose Judgement of 17 November, 1953 decided in favour of the UK.

Here is a link to the full text of that judgement which makes fascinating reading, not least for the history of those rocks:

http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/17/2025.pdf
 
Thanks for an interesting thread Hairy and JsyMartini.

Its not an area I know, my dad tried to go there in 1989 so not recent.

My boat, 48ft draws 1.5m but does not take the ground, no legs!

I suppose you could say legless.

Are there safe anchorages nearby with -2 to -2.5 below datum in that area?

Which tide table do you use, St Helier, Granville or St Malo?

I looked in Bloc Marine it does not give tidal data, perhaps if it was French soil they would?
 
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Thanks for an interesting thread Hairy and JsyMartini.

Its not an area I know, my dad tried to go there in 1989 so not recent.

My boat, 48ft draws 1.5m but does not take the ground, no legs!

I suppose you could say legless.

Are there safe anchorages nearby with -2 to -2.5 below datum in that area?

Which tide table do you use, St Helier, Granville or St Malo?

I looked in Bloc Marine it does not give tidal data, perhaps if it was French soil they would?

About 3/4 mile east of the Maitre Ile there's a deep water anchorage just NW of the Coq beacon with 5-10m below datum. French boats on their way up from St. Malo/ Granville occasionally pop in there, dodge a few heads and you can get much closer in with still enough water.

The States of Jersey tug (26m & 2.5m draft) is a regular visitor on maintenance/buoyage duties. If she's staying over a spring LW then I believe she anchors just north of the Maitre Ile. No depths are given on the charts, my own notes just say "plenty water"! I'll hover over it next time and check the sounder.

As far as tides go, I always stick to St. Helier for simplicity, when I want a really accurate tide height I can call VTS at the pier heads and get it.
I've got Minquiers tides listed on my plotting software, generally they're within a foot and 10-15 mins.
 
Hi JSYM
Can I take you up on the offer of a trip, It looks stunning.
I have seen your boat, it looks lovely, (in Collettte if I remember rightly..... second thoughts it might have been in QE Marina)
 
Hi JSYM
Can I take you up on the offer of a trip, It looks stunning.
I have seen your boat, it looks lovely, (in Collettte if I remember rightly..... second thoughts it might have been in QE Marina)

Most welcome to, the boat is in LCYB at the mo, swapped places with my rib for a few weeks to get a few jobs done. Normally she's on a drying mooring in front of south pier shipyard. Come and say hello if you see me.

Interesting footage. Those boats at anchor, where exactly are they, finding it hard to get my bearings from that piece of film.

I had the same trouble, he doesn't stay still long enough to figure it out! The one thing I am fairly sure of though is the position of the boats, if you go back to the chart on post #12, in the top left there's a waypoint plotted called "minquiers pool".
 
Thanks, that now makes more sense. Any idea of depth at low water springs? there seems to be a fairly large mobo nestling up to the sandbar in that video.
 
Hairy says 4m at LWS, it varies as the sand moves around but I'd say a bit less, you should find a spot with 2m min on an average spring.
Edit: just checked my notes again, I had 3m with 1.7m of tide at St. Helier.


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