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hi there, I'm possibly looking at one of these for coastal pottering around Kent with the occasional trip to France. Is the keel suitable for her to dry on next to a harbour wall (I suspect not) and are these boats seaworthy if caught in a blow (eg an 8/9)? I suspect the stability may not be brilliant due to the diddy keel but she looks like she might work well to windward.

ta, dude
 
Having spent 3 years "pottering around Kent with the occasional trip to France", I'm not sure how you would contrive to be out in an 8/9? The passage time from Ramsgate to France is 5 hours and force 8/9 would be well forecast. Before the "I've been out in force 9 in the channel" brigade jumps in, a gust of 35 knots is still only a force 6. A force 6 would be bouncy in a Legend but she's quite up to it. It sounds a great boat for what you suggest.
 
I am not Legend bashing...but I have to say my own prejudice would be to look through the much more seaworthy, comfortable (at sea) and practical boats that abound on the used boat lists...and one which is not "factory made" so that when you want to maintain/repair/repair something it is not hidden behind some moulding, and where you might get more "pride of ownership". Particularly if you want to ensure you get looked after in the rougher stuff. There is such good value around....esp in this market. But I know there are differing views on this sort of topic.
 
Interesting stuff, could I ask which models your're talking about please? I like the Nic 26's also but there are not many good examples about currently.

Dude
 
A Nic26 is miles away from a Legend. The Nic is pretty but I reckon boat design has moved on a bit, like car design. Mind you, for Kent a bilge or lifting keel will be better - you will run aground /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
originally designed by van der Stadt for Bruynzeel.

Many made in sheathed ply, perhaps doubtful condition now.

Safe seagoing boats with adequate (outstanding for the era) space below. Rig like a big dinghy, no backstay, allows an aggressive roach.
Not a good bet for drying out - the longish keel prevents falling back or forward, but quite difficult to prop.

Quite a few boats from the same era are more highly regarded, not entirely justifiably.
 
Are you talking about the modern American designed Hunter Legend (mostly built in UK). In which case, many had bilge keels and I think the fin keel has a bulb or wing at the bottom. In which case the base will be long enough to dry out, but if it is a wide wing then not so good as you can't lean to the wall.

As to its seaworthiness, it will be category B so do not expect it to be suitable for the conditions you talk about. However for your intended use you would have to be really stupid to ever get anywhere near those conditions. If you seriously want a boat of that size that will cope with severe conditions there are plenty of older designs such as the Vancouver 28 that have proved themselves, but they will normally not have the room of modern designs. There are also other designs such as Sadlers Moodys and Westerlys, just to name some of the popular ones that many would prefer to the Legend and probably at less money.
 
Forget what I said. This is a different boat altogether. You have to be a midget though if the headroom in the dimension box is correct!

Good pedigree and well equipped. Price reflects the fact that it is a rarity (and they admit it needs a bit of work). New engine a big plus. That will have cost nearly half the asking price. Not good for ditch crawling at 5'6" draft nor for drying out. Looks like a lively performer though.
 
That is a really different boat to the one I was thinking of. Looking at the photos and reading the condition, bearing in mind the age, condition and kit to get it set up this boat is not worth more than £5,500.
 
Don't see how you can come to that conclusion based on the printed information and photos. Seems pretty typical for age and type and asking price is good starting point which reflects the declared condition.

My only concern from the poster's perspective is that this is not my idea of a "pottering" boat!
 
Actually I'm now looking at the Halcyon 27. There are a few more about, they're better priced than the Nic 26 and I like the long keel. Finding one in good order might be a bit more of a challenge though.

Dude
 
£9500 for a 36 year old glass fibre yacht of a make and design you hardly ever see (it's no Westerly or Hunter) in tired and dirty condition? No roller reefing, a forecabin no SWMBO would tolerate and old sails????? The engine is only 4 years old but that changes value to a very small degree.

Anyway, the halcyon 27 is a lovely yacht, looks nice and it will look after you. Cramped down below even by the standards of its own era but a fine sailing boat. Like you say, finding one in good nick and with a good engine will be the challenge. Worth looking at the Sabre and Albin Vega, very similar yachts from the same era. the Vega has the edge and looking at all 3 will widen your prospects. Good luck with the hunt.
 
Similar money to asking prices for a Centaur of similar age (OK a bit younger). But if you are looking for a performance boat it could be a good buy. But not a pottering boat or a family cruiser. From that perspective it does not compare with a host of other boats in the price range.
 
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