Legal action starting against Volvo Penta

Hi - are there part numbers for these? I still have the screw on ones (D4) and thought the clear ones to be of better design anyway - didn't know they were steel in construction..

Thanks

Mat
 
The attitude expressed above seems endemic to VP however until VP owners actually start to take a united stand against their way of dealing with us we can only expect it to continue.

It was estimated that up to an extra £1m of turnover was generated for VP and most of their dealers in oil, filters & labour from D4 & D6 in the years AFTER they had changed the First Service Inspection protocol but despite the MBY article there seems to have been indifference from those affected.

Again V-P are adamant that a D6 should take a maximum of 20 litres of oil (including the content in filters) but from this forum we know that people are regularly paying for more to be put in, seemingly without any concerns.

Unless we start complaining loudly as a group.........
 
I work as senior technician for a Volvo dealer and the official line from Volvo is that there is no problem with the screw on lid filter, however they conveniently offer an alternative!
I know from personal experience that these screw on lids can leak, had a Windy in this week with water in the engine room, luckily the engine still ran perfectly, so we rinsed everything with fresh water serviced the engine and gave it a good run and it was fine.
But we have had dozens of motors out because the water got as high as the starter and alternator and these died usually burning out the engine harness which requires engine removal to replace.
The problem is that some leak very soon and others like the Windy are 5-6 yrs old, if its still in warranty Volvo will pay for the repairs, but if out, you are on your own.
You have to fit the lid correctly and not cross thread it which is easily done, the surest way is to spin it backwards before tightening it and checking that it has screwed down evenly, its obvious if its not on straight.
Alternatively have the newer type fitted for peace of mind.
 
Hi Daka,

Many thanks for bringing this to so many peoples attention I think it is important Volvo are held to account on this issue. My blog has had 238 hits in 2 days!

David.
 
matm said:
Hi - are there part numbers for these? I still have the screw on ones (D4) and thought the clear ones to be of better design anyway - didn't know they were steel in construction..

Thanks

Mat
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Hi Mat,

Yes the Volvo part number is 21400685 you can buy them on line at Coastal Rides and fit them yourself in about 30 mins.
However, I have just been told by a Volvo dealer in Mallorca that Volvo Penta have recently reduced the price from £120 to just £20 each! If thats true then Volvo are obviously very keen for people to fit them. £20 must be well below their own manufacturing cost price.

David
 
Sneds said:
Is this problem particular to the D4 and the D6?
I ask as my AD31Ps have plastic spin-on lids?
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I also have a spin on lid, although not a Volvo one. If yours is before the raw water pump (pretty sure it is) then it can't give this problem.

Problems with the lid on strainers fitted prior to the pump will usually cause air to be drawn in and possibly cause over heating. If the filter is above the waterline, it won't really leak.

Lid problems on strainers fitted after the pump (what a daft idea) will mean the strainer is under the full pressure of the pump. If the lid leaks, it fill the engine bay with water.
 
That is interesting about the filter being after the pump - can't see why that would be, but suppose they must have a reason.

Cleaned my Volvo strainer the other day - same type as the failed ones here but above the waterline. Careful about replacing the lid as worried about crossthreading (it is awkward to get at). Started the engine and could see the air bubbles in the clear pipe. Extra little twist on the cap and the bubbles stopped, so it is easy to see how a very small leak or crack can let air in or water out if below the waterline or under pressure.
 
On a new Windy Mistral that I PDI'd the other day had the 2 D4's had the latest version of seawater filter installed before the pump the same way the rest of the world has been doing it for years! This is now standard on new D4 & 6's.
 
Volvo revert back to original configuration

spannerman said:
On a new Windy Mistral that I PDI'd the other day had the 2 D4's had the latest version of seawater filter installed before the pump the same way the rest of the world has been doing it for years! This is now standard on new D4 & 6's.
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That's interesting that they have reverted the pumps location back to be in front of the impeller on the new D4's, more explaining for Volvo to do.
 
Product Code: Volvo Penta 21400685

matm said:
Hi - are there part numbers for these? I still have the screw on ones (D4) and thought the clear ones to be of better design anyway - didn't know they were steel in construction..

Thanks

Mat
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Hi Mat,

Here is the Volvo Penta D4/D6 Sea Water Strainer Lid Upgrade part number
Product Code: Volvo Penta 21400685

David
 
rubberduck said:
We have had no problems with the standard lid, but Volvo talked me into two new ones at the cost of £30 each fitted.
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How the hell did you get Volvo to let you have 'em for £30, normally more like £130, I think.

I've been running mine for 6 years and 850hrs, never any problem (everything crossed, touching wood and praying to the Volvo gods).

Always check as part of daily check, tight and run up injun to make sure no leaks.
 
Tranona said:
That is interesting about the filter being after the pump - can't see why that would be, but suppose they must have a reason.

Cleaned my Volvo strainer the other day - same type as the failed ones here but above the waterline. Careful about replacing the lid as worried about crossthreading (it is awkward to get at). Started the engine and could see the air bubbles in the clear pipe. Extra little twist on the cap and the bubbles stopped, so it is easy to see how a very small leak or crack can let air in or water out if below the waterline or under pressure.
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I think when the impeller goes bad its good to have the broken parts in the filter and not the heat exchanger!
 
A_8 said:
I think when the impeller goes bad its good to have the broken parts in the filter and not the heat exchanger!
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Guess that is one side benefit, but note according to spannerman above they have now changed back to the more common arrangement of having it before the pump!
 
Tranona said:
Guess that is one side benefit, but note according to spannerman above they have now changed back to the more common arrangement of having it before the pump!
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I think all the kad series engines have the filter after the pump so I am not convinced which setup is better or more common then the other.
 
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