Knives

Old Glow In The Deeps said:
We’ve all heard and probably used the term “the correct tool for the job” ….so the knives I have mentioned and anything resembling the afore mentioned are the only knives to use.
We have covered most of the exceptions in the Galley etc…..so anyone selling inappropriate knives at boat shows just to make a quick buck should be stopped, as they should be of no interest to the boating community.
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Well maybe not everybody agrees on what constitutes the "correct tool for the job" when it comes to knives. What is more, what is used is often a compromise or what happens to be at hand. Just because one section of the population of the UK likes to go round stabbing each other does not make it a crime for the more responsible of us to use knives as a tool for the job. I use a large, heavy and very aggressive looking diving knfe because it will make short work of heavy duty fishing net that is often entangled on wrecks. It is not so good with monofilament line nets but it is very sharp so it copes. It has a great point for impailing flatfish and getting between heavy rope that is wound round prop. It is not so good as a utility knife around the boat but it often gets used because it is to hand. It does make quite a good hammer, basher, paint tin lid remover etc.

If I did not already have such a 'pig sticker' I might see one at a boat jumble and decide that it looked like a good utility tool. I should not be denied that right and thankfully I am not.
 
Old Glow In The Deeps said:
We’ve all heard and probably used the term “the correct tool for the job” ….so the knives I have mentioned and anything resembling the afore mentioned are the only knives to use.
We have covered most of the exceptions in the Galley etc…..so anyone selling inappropriate knives at boat shows just to make a quick buck should be stopped, as they should be of no interest to the boating community.
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So you are telling me which knives I am allowed to use and which ones people are allowed to sell me?
 
Good question.

Neil said:
So you are telling me which knives I am allowed to use and which ones people are allowed to sell me?
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So what does it say when you see people using the wrong tool for the job, or acting in an unsafe / dangerous manner?
 
I couldn't do without my knife i use it multiple times each day. Only time i leave it behind is if going to city centre.Even then i somtimes forget. I even managed a flight from France to uk recently with the Gerber in my pocket! It is a tool not a weapon.
 
I can see your list being expanded...

Using Movies for a source of banning inspiration......


Clearly the list needs to increase.... Chainsaws have to GO (Texas Chain Saw Massacre). Ditto on the Hockey Masks, too...

Cars that go over 5 KPH need to go... could hit someone, ya know... Those Grills could slice and dice!!

Ditto on handsaws, drills, circular saws, sabre saws, table saws, etc, etc. Halloween Stores in the US can be a big inspiration about increasing the lists of "verboten..."

Many husbands can attest to Skillets, rolling pins, and Sharp Words that need to be on the list...

Bricks pose an imminent danger.... You can throw them or drop them from someplace high!....

Sharks should NOT be on the list. Their noses are blunt & their teeth are rarely concealed. ALso, to be realistic, the number of people killed per year by sharks is quite a bit less than many other things one might imagine...

Yep... there are a lot of good billable hours ahead for lawyers and lawmakers and they craft this list to be larger....

--jr
 
Like Csail, I carry a knife with me all the time - and find it useful in the office several times a week.

I have two knives.

One is safe, because the blade locks open, so won't try and remove a finger if I get careless, but this safety, plus the fact that the blade is a few mm to long for the lawbunglers (I couldn't call them makers) means I was, without realising it, walking around with 150hrs of Community Service in my pocket, so it stays at home, 'cos I'l never remember to take it out of my pocket when I pop down to the shops from the boat.

The other is legal 'cos I broke the tip off the blade years ago, so it's a few mm shorter than the illegal one. It's far more dangerous to use because there's nothing to stop the blade snapping shut on my fingers. It also has a lethal pointed skinning blade, which I keep shaving sharp. It's a bit small for filleting anything much bigger than a mackeral, but would do a great job on someone's throat, if I were that way inclined.

It's a typical outcome of gesture politics. There was a perfectly good offensive weapons law in place for years. As a copper an offensive weapon was pretty much anything I wanted it to be that was made or adapted to cause injury. A knife is sharp, so comes into the made category. If young Jeremiah Scrote couldn't come up with a lawful authority (copper & Truncheon) or reasonable excuse (his to prove, not mine to disprove), he's nicked. The reasonable excuse would have to justify him carrying that particular knife and that particular place at that particular time, so "I just bought it" works on the bus home from the shops at 5 pm in a carrier bag, but not waved under someone's nose at 2am outside a club.

Now, any forgetful sailor with a knife that's safe to use on board is risking a criminal record for walking down Gosport High St looking for bargains in the Saturday market. :mad:
 
Stemar said:
I have two knives.

One is safe, because the blade locks open, so won't try and remove a finger if I get careless, but this safety, plus the fact that the blade is a few mm to long for the lawbunglers (I couldn't call them makers) means I was, without realising it, walking around with 150hrs of Community Service in my pocket, so it stays at home, 'cos I'l never remember to take it out of my pocket when I pop down to the shops from the boat.
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AFAIAA . It is an offence to have in one's possession without good cause ANY knife which has a locking blade. The length of the blade is irrelevent.

Had a run in with the security people and the Police at Plymouth ferry last year. Read
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191225
 
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