Kim how about?

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Been reading the article in MBM on the Aquador owner , part of a series on new boat owners.. How about MBY doin a series on owners who have bought secondhand, could feature members of this very forum, I reckon there would be a few volanteers. cue Oldgit, hlb,Brendan Depsol etc...............

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Better still, howabout a series on new owners deciding what boat they want.

They can land me a Botnia Targa 31 with twin D6's for a year and I'll tell them what I think after that. . . . . ;-)


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Done the article just need a good day with another boat and a guy who can take half decent pictures.

Maybe see it in MBM this year but thats up to the Ed.


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I agree as Corniches just don't seem to hit the magazine covers much lately ;-)

Nick

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In reply,and out of curiosity,how many people own new boats?or like me own older boats and like to keep them updated and "new"?and would also like to learn more about upkeep an maintenence,than look at new models!OR AM I READING THE WRONG MAGAZINE?

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In reply,and out of curiosity,how many people own new boats?or like me own older boats and like to keep them updated and "new"?but would also like to learn more about upkeep an maintenence,than look at new models!OR AM I READING THE WRONG MAGAZINE?

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But years ago I posted loads of stuff about big adventures and stuff going wrong. The exploding toilet is legoinary. I should be a vertual milloinair!!. Cant post all the things over twenty years again. It has all been said. Boats sinking midddle of night, miles out to sea whith captain Bligh in charge with narrow boat experience. Arguing the toss about the same degrees to Falmouth from Salcolmbe and same from Looe!! Wealth of information here. Pitty no use is made of it. We only want a thank you. Not a note to say everything is the property of!!! Sack the F editor. It's all been done for him. Just copy and paste from here. Ok. needs some one with a brain to miss out the crap. I post as much as anibody.../forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Haydn
 
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I was really talking about a pukka article in MBY (or MBM) featuring peeps from the forum, about them and their boats

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Re: Oooh Definately.

wot exel idea.Pages n pages of ace Princess boats and for a bit of balance a couple of lines at back for OAPs viz Brooms and something in plain brown envelope type insert for Sealine owners who have not admitted yet in public what boat they went and bought during temp lack of reason./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Thanks Kim, yes I am sure they will. I mean they do print witty snippetts from the forum in the mags each month, taking advantage of the forumites wit & intellect.

So how about some articles on the owners and boats. Anyway whats your opinion on the subject I mean its you that has to put up with all of us.

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Re: Oooh Definately.

oh shuddup you grumpy oldgit/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

Yeah reckon they could start wiv you Fred, what better than the tales of a boat owner with a popular model. Would give readers an idea of what it is like to live with and the costs of running a fairly typical average boat, like a Princcc...........yawwnnnnnn...........................

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Re: Oooh Definately.

They could start with my monthly mooring charges now was that 30 or 40 quid a month,blimey cannot remember for the life of me.The list of out of pocket expence of keeping a boat just goes on and on.

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Good idea, Clive. For every new boat buyer, there must be a hundred secondhand boat buyers and I'm sure the stories will be more interesting and relevant to most of us than new boat buying
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(Does this post conform to the Suncoast paragraph and sentence regulations? I'd appreciate any hints and tips from the master)

Well. I got ear bent for drifting off into harowing tales on the high sea. Cant see that you have done any better. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Haydn
 
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Well, I guess my answer can be found in back issues of MBM through the 1990s; there was usually at least one feature of that type in the mag, especially in the second half of that decade by which time we had got to meet a lot of owners. You'll see many of them listed in the <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.ybw-directory.com/reprints/search2.jsp> magazine indexes section</A>

MBM is Hugo's responsibility these days, hence reason for my previous answer. Off the top of my head I'm sure they have been running secondhand reports as well, quite apart from Alex McMullen's overview of older boats. Alex has been providing valuable input in that area of the mag since 1990, first with 25 Years of Motor Cruisers, then with the Popular Cruisers series (which usually interviewed at least three owners of each boat type) and now with his current features.

For what it is worth we would also like to have also run features on new boat ownership and were less successful with that or, when the oportunities arose, we usually used the boats offered for actual boat reports. I've personally enjoyed seeing those features in MBM in recent times.

One thing I find slightly amusing about the theory that owners better tell it the way it is is that objectivity is not always guaranteed, not least because owners are sitting on their own investment and in some cases trying to justify their decisions to a wider audience, which is quite a call when you think about it. That's not a dig, far from it, just a wry observation and something we are aware of when preparing these features.

I must confess to not having read every article of late...been a bit buried on all manner of other stuff... but the initial MBM owners with new boats report I have read seem to have struck a very honest chord as far as I can tell, which is credit to those involved.

If either of our mags gets to working with a few of you on here then I guess the same thing will happen because the good, the bad and the ugly have probably already been exposed in a technicolour thread /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

There's certianly been some overt input from Scuttlebutt into YM of late but in fairness to the motorboat mag editors they are the most active among all of our titles in terms of sticking heads up above parapets. Quite apart from direct intervention there is a lot of monitoring going on and I am occasionally asked to contact forum owners about their posts with a view to gaining more info so perhaps there is a bit more cross-fertilisation than might be realised.

Sorry, got a bit off piste but it's written now...

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I think it's much more fun here. More down to earth with real life unedited and un abridged. Stuff in mags gets so obviously watered down or tarted up. It's quite obvious that it'a a sudo?? version.

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Haydn
 
Thanks for the suggestion.

For the record my current plan is to adopt the used boat test format that we used in the Feb issue (Fairline Corniche, Nimbus 2600 and Cruisers Holiday) as an addition to our regular Top 100 used boats series.

In other words as of March every issue will feature three single page used boat reviews by Alex McMullen while the 4th boat becomes an extended 3 page test with a sea trial by our technical team and a surveyors report from an experieneced surveyor. We will also be running regular used boat ownership stories as and when they strike a chord. For example next month we have the story of a bloke who bought a 51ft ex-lifeboat in Ireland for under £15k and cruised it back to the UK with water pouring in through the creaking hull.

For the moment the owner's reports will remain on new or nearly new boats (the Windy Bora was second hand) because it is the only way we can get feedback on the buying and after sales service which the dealers provide. That's not to say that it will always be that way. I can certainly enviasge a time when we might use a similar format for used boats.

More than happy to cover forumites boats as and when appropriate for this or other series eg Martyn Whiteley's re-engined Birchwood. In fact am considering setting up a reader's panel to discuss issues such as insurance, berthing, fuel costs etc. Anyone who's interested in lending their opinions can register their interest by sending me an e-mail direct on hugo_andreae@ipcmedia.com stating their e-mail address, tel number, model and age of boat and where they keep it.


Cheers

Hugo Andreae

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