Jubilee clip upgrade.

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Having just removed the fuel tank from a 25 year old pocket cruiser I have come to realise how much I hate jubilee clips. Having said that, they did all eventually come off after a quarter century of neglect - along with the skin on my knuckles.

Is there any worthwhile pipe clip upgrade I can make when replacing the tank?
 
if replacing Jubliee make sure you get the Jubliee brand with Copper grease as already stated by previous guy. however copper and galvanise aren't good pals so i dont know how that might turn out in 2046 for the next knuckled skined chap but perhaps you can get S/S Jubliee. not all Cola is Coke
 
Be sure to use stainless clips.

Not sure which clips Colvic is pointing to but I prefer not to use worm drive clips, Jubilee or copies, on small diameter pipes.

You should be able to get a special screwdriver with a shrouded blade to fit Jubilee clips. It stops the blade from slipping out of the slot and saves a lot of skinned knuckles.
 
VicS said:
You should be able to get a special screwdriver with a shrouded blade to fit Jubilee clips. It stops the blade from slipping out of the slot and saves a lot of skinned knuckles.
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I prefer to use hex-headed clips and drive them with a small socket.
 
planteater said:
Having just removed the fuel tank from a 25 year old pocket cruiser I have come to realise how much I hate jubilee clips. Having said that, they did all eventually come off after a quarter century of neglect - along with the skin on my knuckles.

Is there any worthwhile pipe clip upgrade I can make when replacing the tank?
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In what way were they difficult to remove? Corrosion? Were they Jubilee clips (a brand name) or are you using that as a generic for hose clips? All stainless construction? BS number or any other identifying marks?
 
Thanks for the tips. The problem I had was lack of access and the fact that I was using a "dumpy" flat blade screwdriver in an area I couldn't see. The clips themselves had not corroded or stiffened beyond what you might reasonably expect over 25 years but it was still a ******* of a job on January morning.

I reckon the hex nut clips might be the best replacement. Workable in tight corners without any additional tools.

Thanks again!
 
planteater said:
Thanks for the tips. The problem I had was lack of access and the fact that I was using a "dumpy" flat blade screwdriver in an area I couldn't see. The clips themselves had not corroded or stiffened beyond what you might reasonably expect over 25 years but it was still a ******* of a job on January morning.

I reckon the hex nut clips might be the best replacement. Workable in tight corners without any additional tools.
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Ah, that's clear enough.

So presumably you'll be seeking hose clips with hex heads. Make sure they're all-stainless and manufactured to BS5315. Note that this is not a standard for stainless, just for general construction. Also note that there are clips out there with a stainless body but a mild steel (or lower grade stainless) screw, a big no-no. Best to stick to reputable brands like Jubilee or JCS (Hi-Torque, Hi-Grip). Most have a 7mm hex head; some have 8mm. (Head is also slotted should you want to tighten them the old-fashioned way.) Best used with 1/4 inch drive socket & ratchet, especially in tight situations like you describe.
 
planteater said:
Thanks for the tips. The problem I had was lack of access and the fact that I was using a "dumpy" flat blade screwdriver in an area I couldn't see. The clips themselves had not corroded or stiffened beyond what you might reasonably expect over 25 years but it was still a ******* of a job on January morning.

I reckon the hex nut clips might be the best replacement. Workable in tight corners without any additional tools.

Thanks again!
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I see that I was not the only one. I have scraped knuckles and arms and several bruises. All caused by removing and installing a deisel tank in a very tight space. My arm was stretched to the limit to remove the "Jubilee" clips.

Fair winds

Peter
 
Having examined the fuel tank in the cold light of day it's clear that it had been installed with two types of clip - some were entirely stainless and some had rusted badly.

I have just ordered a flexible drive tool and will get some replacements for the nasty clips.

Man, I love this forum - where else could you learn so much about hoseclips?
 
The the threaded type of hose CLAMPS are much more secure than the usual worm thread type of hose CLIPS.

This type is better -

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgu...=QNNGTa7QLInPhAf3nK2fAg&sqi=2&ved=0CEAQ9QEwAQ

I wouldnt rely on a jubilee clip to keep the boat afloat. At least, if you use them, double them up with one placed pointing backwards to the other.

Our local engineers won't use clips for insurance reasons.
 
Made exclusively in the UK

pks1702 said:
Jubilee are a pale shadow of their former self now being made offshore.

The only Hose Clips I would trust are these.

http://www.jcshi-torque.co.uk/
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Is this an advert for JCS?!

Every genuine Jubilee Clip ever manufactured (in the 90 years since my Great Grandfather patented the worm drive hose clip) has been made in the UK, without exception. You can tell the real ones because they have our name on the housing. It is an issue that the uninitiated (clearly not those on this forum) will refer to other worm drive clips as though we had made them; which can mean that, unlike JCS, we are burdened with the failure of others. Our customer complaint file (ISO:9001 requirement) contains almost exclusively complaints about clips that we didn't make.

With regard to alternative fasteners we offer a Superclamp range for heavy duty applications, available in full 18/10 (316) stainless with a solid and robust design ideal for marine use.

So please, be sure to ask for Jubilee by name and check that you haven't been sold a cheap imitation!

I would add that I love this forum; it shows how knowledgeable and discerning some boat owners can be.
 
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