halb
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Perhaps the real reason for this is that Jotun have now got their own range of yachtie antifouling, needless to say it is vastly more expensive than the commercial range, more profit?
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Jotun Antifoul - Professional Only?
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GrahamM376
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I wondered about that. Also, Sea Guardian has been obsolete for several years, what's the shelf life?
Cloven
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So have I but not in the blue the OP was asking about. Only available in Black or Red now
William_H
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Yes sorry Troubadour. I raced outside to check the names on the tins and got confused. The stuff I was given is Jotun Seavictor 50 (has anyone heard of it? The Penguard is an epoxy primer. Though I think it might have gone off as reluctant to harden.
Sea Guardian was bought from chandler last June. That is what is on the boat. Perhaps the old stocks were dumped on Oz market. It certainly was not cheap. Or was it made obsolete by European regulations? I didn't get much info from jotun web site. Perhaps I am looking in the wrong place. olewill
PCUK
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DIY paints now have to be 'compliant'. This generally means water based with no isocyanates. Professional means you issue invoices for applying it. Non compliant paints can no longer be sold for DIY use.
Bayside Marine Chandlery
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Hello,
The reason we can no longer supply Jotun Seaforce to the public is indeed an HSE issue. The product is not 'labelled' in the correct fashion which means we can only supply to professional users, which in itself is a grey area.. We keep Jotun mare nostrum in stock which is from there Yachting rane. Jotun assure us this product is en equivalent antifouling and there will be no compatibility issues with previous products. Pack size currently available is 2.5 or 20ltr, 5 litres may be available in the future.
The reason we can no longer supply Jotun Seaforce to the public is indeed an HSE issue. The product is not 'labelled' in the correct fashion which means we can only supply to professional users, which in itself is a grey area.. We keep Jotun mare nostrum in stock which is from there Yachting rane. Jotun assure us this product is en equivalent antifouling and there will be no compatibility issues with previous products. Pack size currently available is 2.5 or 20ltr, 5 litres may be available in the future.
robmcg
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CAPTAIN FANTASTIC
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has nothing to do with the EU
William,
If you want to stick with Jotun, and I see no technical reason why not, then try Sea Quantum Ultra, its better than Sea Victor (or, sales pitch now - buy the future issue of Cruising Helmsman when they do the final summary of 12 AF paints). Other decent paints here, ABC3, Altex No5 and Micron 66. But this refers to Sydney conditions so no guarantees but I would expect similar results.
Jonathan
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Seaforce 30 is the best antifoul I've ever used, but this year I've had to buy another brand untested, unevaluated and possibly unreliable.
I bought Seaforce from you last year. Luckily iI still had 2/3 tin left over to do high ablate areas. Impossible to get it any more.
ridiculous.
alahol2
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So can you supply Seaforce to a professional if they should ask for it?
This looks to be a perfect opportunity for a UK sailing magazine to test Seaforce against whatever it is they say is the equivalent in the domestic or leisure range. To suggest it is a labelling issue is a non-sense, labels are cheap.
One might have though that if the same product is available to 'professionals' then professional applicators, that might service leisure yachts, will have stock and I have not known many people turn down the opportunity to sell, anything. I'm guessing to overcome professionals side stepping it might only be available in 20l containers - seems perfect size for a yacht club, or consortium of owners, to buy. On our 38' cat we use around 10l-12l (three generous coats) - 20l is not that much.
Micron 66 was historically only available to professionals here in Oz, International 'went' the other way and we can now buy it 'over the counter'. What they had to do to allow we idiots to buy it, I do not know.
Jonathan
One might have though that if the same product is available to 'professionals' then professional applicators, that might service leisure yachts, will have stock and I have not known many people turn down the opportunity to sell, anything. I'm guessing to overcome professionals side stepping it might only be available in 20l containers - seems perfect size for a yacht club, or consortium of owners, to buy. On our 38' cat we use around 10l-12l (three generous coats) - 20l is not that much.
Micron 66 was historically only available to professionals here in Oz, International 'went' the other way and we can now buy it 'over the counter'. What they had to do to allow we idiots to buy it, I do not know.
Jonathan
GrahamM376
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Simple. Stop being public and have some business cards printed.