Jersey re Brexit

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French authorities have given advice to private boat owners in the case of a no-deal Brexit.
On their first arrival in France from Jersey, vessels would be required to clear customs and immigration at a designated port of arrival.....

https://www.gov.je/Travel/InformationAdvice/Pages/VisitingPrivateVessels.aspx
Piers ??
 
Our yacht club had a notice from Guernsey harbours stating:

Good Afternoon,

In the event of a “No Deal” BREXIT we have been advised that the French Authorities are indicating that visitors to France, arriving from the Channel Islands by sea, will have to initially report to a Frontières Maritimes Port to achieve Customs/Immigration Clearance.

After this they can freely move between other ports on the French Coast, including to marinas that are not designated Frontières Martimes.

The Frontières Maritimes in Normandy are:
Cherbourg
Granville
Carteret

The Frontières Maritimes in Brittany are:
St Malo
Brest
Roscoff

Although Guernsey Harbours have received no official confirmation of this arrangement, boat owners should consider this whilst route planning in the “No Deal” BREXIT scenario.

Updates will be promulgated as soon as possible.

Regards
Jerome

Jerome Davis AFNI

Head of Port Operations
Guernsey Harbours
Trading Asset
States of Guernsey
 
a question from a thick northerner how come you can get cheep diesel from the channel islands , if they are uk vat based
 
seastoke said:
a question from a thick northerner how come you can get cheep diesel from the channel islands , if they are uk vat based
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Isle of Man has a common purse agreement which is why we pay VAT here as if we were in the uk.

Channel Islands don’t hence cheap fuel etc...
 
Crown Dependencies formal relationship with the EU will end when the UK ceases to be a member.
It is not gonna be pretty once grandfather / minder - UK PLC has no foot hold at the top table.
 
Portofino said:
Missed the point the guys in SW1A will not be able to continue to shield you ( fiduciary business) as in previous years .

What representatives have you got currently at Brussels?? Who fights your corner now ?
Well it’s not any of Mr Barniers 27 isn’t it ?
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I don't know about Jersey but Guernsey has civil servants regularly meeting with UK civil servants to brief them on how the UK's negotiating stance could affect us. I've been told that in some instances the UK thinks we could come off better after Brexit.

The meetings have been attended by as many as twenty from the UK, some with 'Channel Islands' in their job titles.
 
seastoke said:
a question from a thick northerner how come you can get cheep diesel from the channel islands , if they are uk vat based
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The Channel Islands are not part of the UK, but they are part of the British Isles. They are called Crown dependencies and are owned by the title Duke of Normany (refer 1204 AD), a title is owned by the Queen. Hence, the islands are nothing to do with the UK. We set our own laws and tax rules. E.g., there's no VAT in Guernsey and marina diesel is duty free.

A technicality is that since the islands are within the geographic area of the EU Custom union, Protocol 3 was agreed in the 70s when the UK joined the EEC. This defined how the islands trade within the EEC (now EU). Prorocol 3 will disappear at Brexit, so all the Channel Islands wait to see what will happen. Declaring independence is one of the many options.
 
Piers said:
The Channel Islands are not part of the UK, but they are part of the British Isles. They are called Crown dependencies and are owned by the title Duke of Normany (refer 1204 AD), a title is owned by the Queen. Hence, the islands are nothing to do with the UK. We set our own laws and tax rules. E.g., there's no VAT in Guernsey and marina diesel is duty free.

A technicality is that since the islands are within the geographic area of the EU Custom union, Protocol 3 was agreed in the 70s when the UK joined the EEC. This defined how the islands trade within the EEC (now EU). Prorocol 3 will disappear at Brexit, so all the Channel Islands wait to see what will happen. Declaring independence is one of the many options.
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Where/what is/are the British Isles? Is there any basis in law for the term?
 
Piers said:
British Isles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles

UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
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I regard wiki a bit like the guy down the pub who's an expert on every known subject but quite often gets it spectacularly wrong. Haven't bothered to turn on my VPN to connect to the links so could you just tell me what's the basis in law British or international for the term British Isles. I'm just curious because of the way you included the term in describing Jersey's legal status.
 
Irish Rover said:
Where/what is/are the British Isles? Is there any basis in law for the term?
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It is not polite to refer to the British Isles. Hence the name of the British Irish Council. (But even that seems insulting now that I look at it.)

And confusing.

There are three different ideas as to what the term means.
One includes the Channel Islands.
The second excludes the Channel Islands. I'm in that camp.
I discussed the issue with James Marr, the learned author of 'The History of Guernsey', and was startled to hear him assert that it included all the islands off the North West coast of Europe.
And there is a fourth. The French use 'Les Iles de la Manche' to mean all the islands which lie in the Channel, including those off the South coast of Brittany. So they use 'Les Iles Anglo-Normandes' for us.

Our Passports refer to the British Islands. a term which is defined in Law and comprises the UK, the CI, and IoM.
Actually, to be precise the Law should make it clear that UK is not claiming jurisdiction over the Channel Island of Chausey, which is French.
 
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