Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 45.1 & 45.2 serious rudder issue

Spyro said:
No offense taken at all with the suggestion they are built to a price. Your comment about them being past their design life at 17 years was just ridiculous. Maybe you forgot the smiley :rolleyes:
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It's clearly my fault for not checking the frame regularly.........ok then, it's my fault for not ever checking it. Stuff wears out and things break on all boats. I should have checked it and didn't. Lesson learned.

In typical Greek fashion the new frame that was supposed to arrive yesterday didn't. Ah well. The new delivery date is Tuesday....at 8am....guaranteed. Ill expect it sometime later this week then....;)

I will post pictures of the new frame (somebody said they would like to see it) and I'll 'fess up on what it cost too. And no, it's not being made in stainless steel. If you need a reason then blame Gordon Brown. He's the toerag who stole my private pension. :mad:
 
read this thread with interest and pondered on how may sets of undersized pintles I have replaced on venerable old designs at very low sea miles - so whats the problem?
 
Marsupial said:
read this thread with interest and pondered on how may sets of undersized pintles I have replaced on venerable old designs at very low sea miles - so whats the problem?
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But that was often down to ignorance - there is no excuse (even in 1995) for such a poor piece of workmanship as shown here - nothing wrong with the design, or even the materials - just seems badly put together. Probably would not have corroded if it had been galvanised after fabrication - and the source of the leak eliminated.
 
Spyro said:
Your comment about them being past their design life at 17 years was just ridiculous.
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So Jeanneau dont use the brass seacocks with just a 5 year design life then? Of course they do because they are cheap - and they arent alone in taking that approach.

I doubt that there is an overall design life for something made of so many different components as a yacht but you can be sure that there is a design life for each of those components used and most of them will be below 17 years. Rigging, sails, toilets, electronics, engine - and now the rudder bearing supports.
 
wotayottie said:
So Jeanneau dont use the brass seacocks with just a 5 year design life then? Of course they do because they are cheap - and they arent alone in taking that approach.

I doubt that there is an overall design life for something made of so many different components as a yacht but you can be sure that there is a design life for each of those components used and most of them will be below 17 years. Rigging, sails, toilets, electronics, engine - and now the rudder bearing supports.
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I do wonder what people actually think the design life of these boats is?
Design life is of course based upon various factors. Some are time dependant whilst others are mileage dependant. Just look at car makers. 3 year warranty or 60,000 which ever comes first. They can do this based upon design life under normal useage and will pay out for those who fall at the end of the bell curves. Paying out on the rare occasions is offset with increased sales due to the warranties offered. Try making a claim on a boat warranty for a serious defect is nigh impossible based upon some of the posts in these forums.
As you say the components that go into making a boat all have a design life and so does the hull and decks. I don't think you will find many 17 year old boats where work hasn't been carried out to fix leaking decks.
The working life of a yacht get extended in a similar way that a power station gets an extension. Refurbishment takes place.
I thought Spyro's comment about me suggesting that design life of a yacht was over at 17 years was a reflection on him and I didn't bother taking it any further than his last comment as people see it for what it is. I would give most yachts a 10 to 15 year life before a major refurb was needed.
 
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