Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 30i Lift keel - how many turns? Any alternatives?

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I am thinking of buying a newish Sun Odyssey 30i lift keel if I can find one in the Uk. Does anyone know how many 'turns' it takes to raise the keel? I used to have an Etap lift keel and that took about 300 - never again. As far as I can see, the 30i keel lifting line seems to run aft to the cockpit so it might be just a few turns around the winch?
There doesn't seem to be any other modern lift keel/bilge 30footers on the market so I am a bit restricted in choice unless any other forumites know of an alternative.
My budget is around £60.Any input would be much appreciated
 
sealegsjim said:
I am thinking of buying a newish Sun Odyssey 30i lift keel if I can find one in the Uk. Does anyone know how many 'turns' it takes to raise the keel? I used to have an Etap lift keel and that took about 300 - never again. As far as I can see, the 30i keel lifting line seems to run aft to the cockpit so it might be just a few turns around the winch?
There doesn't seem to be any other modern lift keel/bilge 30footers on the market so I am a bit restricted in choice unless any other forumites know of an alternative.
My budget is around £60.Any input would be much appreciated
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Not sure how modern you need..... But this from 2000, much faster than a 30i??

http://www.parkerseal.org.uk/forsale/spiritofskylark.aspx

The French are still at it, available in a twin or lifting, maybe not many second hand though.

http://www.mareehaute.fr/les-bateaux/django-9-80/?lang=en

Rm yachts, though expensive.

Southerly? Expensive!!
 
roblpm said:
http://www.bosuns.co.uk/boat-sales/boats/boat-details?id=156

Southerly 101 from 2000 in my marina!! More cruisy than the previous 2.

I have a feeling that if you are talking less than say 5 years old that there isn't much else at that price.

Hang on I have a great idea Sadler 290?????
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Thanks for your ideas. Unfortunately the Southerly is too big - nearly 34ft and the Sadler draft is too deep. My marina (on Windermere) has a maximum draft of 3'6'' to guarantee access throughout the season.
 
Previous replies seem to assume the keel is a winch handle job but the original post refers to a line and a winch so I guess it may be like the system I had on a 2002 SO32.

This had a rope coming out of the rear face of the table pedestal. Inside the table it had an 8:1 pulley system. To raise the keel you had to pull it about 6ft, maybe a bit more. For me it was a very hard pull, on the limits of my capability, but some of my bigger younger crew could do it quite easily.

I've seen pics of at least one where someone had added a small winch mounted on the rear face of the table pedestal to do it (and I believe that was standard on the previous model SO 32.2). If you did that I reckon the 8:1 block and tackle - which has huge frictional losses - could be reduced or removed. (Incidentally as supplied the system is reeved very badly, all in line, you can make it work much better by turning one block 90 degrees.)

Alternatively you could extend the rope and take it to a sheet winch, or you could add another 2:1 to it by putting a block on the end of it and putting a rope through that tied to a harness point in the cockpit and pulling on the free end.

(I have got Jeanneau's official drawing showing full details of the keel assembly and mechanism for the 32i, PM me if you want a copy emailed.)

Before that I had a lift keel Bene 29 with a screw system which I think has hardly changed in later ones, AFAIR that was about 150 turns with a winch handle in the table.
 
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Plevier said:
Previous replies seem to assume the keel is a winch handle job but the original post refers to a line and a winch so I guess it may be like the system I had on a 2002 SO32.

This had a rope coming out of the rear face of the table pedestal. Inside the table it had an 8:1 pulley system. To raise the keel you had to pull it about 6ft, maybe a bit more. For me it was a very hard pull, on the limits of my capability, but some of my bigger younger crew could do it quite easily.

I've seen pics of at least one where someone had added a small winch mounted on the rear face of the table pedestal to do it (and I believe that was standard on the previous model SO 32.2). If you did that I reckon the 8:1 block and tackle - which has huge frictional losses - could be reduced or removed. (Incidentally as supplied the system is reeved very badly, all in line, you can make it work much better by turning one block 90 degrees.)

Alternatively you could extend the rope and take it to a sheet winch, or you could add another 2:1 to it by putting a block on the end of it and putting a rope through that tied to a harness point in the cockpit and pulling on the free end.

(I have got Jeanneau's official drawing showing full details of the keel assembly and mechanism for the 32i, PM me if you want a copy emailed.)

Before that I had a lift keel Bene 29 with a screw system which I think has hardly changed in later ones, AFAIR that was about 150 turns with a winch handle in the table.
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The system on the 30i has a line which exits the saloon table via a tube which runs parallel to the mast compression post and terminates via a spinlock on the coach roof next to the halliard winch. I presume you use the winch to raise the keel
 
I have a SO 32.2. I haven't counted the turns but it's very simple to lift the plate. Takes seconds.
 
sealegsjim said:
Thanks for your ideas. Unfortunately the Southerly is too big - nearly 34ft and the Sadler draft is too deep. My marina (on Windermere) has a maximum draft of 3'6'' to guarantee access throughout the season.
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Aha didn't realise it was windermere. I would have thought the 30i will be perfect??
 
Phoenix of Hamble said:
Full Circle has the SO35 lifting keel, which has the same keel mechanism.. that takes 100 turns to lift, but 100 turns that aren't hard work... he uses an electric winch handle on occasions.
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105 turns, as Vara will attest. However, as we have a wing keel containing the plate, it means that we do draw 1.1 to 1.2m. The same arrangement is on Beneteau 311, 331, 343, but is not the same as the Jeanneau SO32.2.

Feeling also did a lot of lift keel boats that would be up into your £60k budget.

I really liked my vertical hydraulic lift Evolution 25, but they are long in the tooth now.
 
sealegsjim said:
I am thinking of buying a newish Sun Odyssey 30i lift keel if I can find one in the Uk. Does anyone know how many 'turns' it takes to raise the keel? I used to have an Etap lift keel and that took about 300 - never again. As far as I can see, the 30i keel lifting line seems to run aft to the cockpit so it might be just a few turns around the winch?
There doesn't seem to be any other modern lift keel/bilge 30footers on the market so I am a bit restricted in choice unless any other forumites know of an alternative.
My budget is around £60.Any input would be much appreciated
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Any of the Parker 31-32.3 range - they have a lift keel, not a centreboard as most others. The keel has just on a ton of lead as a wing 6' down and they'll outsail any 34'. Lift is hydraulic - a failure prone electric pump or 140 strokes on the hand pump. 1.83 keel down 658mm keel down.
Alternative is the 26 - 27.3, with a centreboard.
Not often on the market and quickly snapped up but well within a £60K (assuming a typo in the original).
 
My post seems to have been overlooked. I have a SO 32.2. Takes seconds to lift the plate
 
charles_reed said:
Any of the Parker 31-32.3 range - they have a lift keel, not a centreboard as most others. The keel has just on a ton of lead as a wing 6' down and they'll outsail any 34'. Lift is hydraulic - a failure prone electric pump or 140 strokes on the hand pump. 1.83 keel down 658mm keel down.
Alternative is the 26 - 27.3, with a centreboard.
Not often on the market and quickly snapped up but well within a £60K (assuming a typo in the original).
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Probably the boat for me but not unfortunately for SWIMBO. Because of her restricted mobility it must preferably have a step through transom and it must be 'nice and modern inside'
 
sealegsjim said:
Probably the boat for me but not unfortunately for SWIMBO. Because of her restricted mobility it must preferably have a step through transom and it must be 'nice and modern inside'
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Horses for courses. I own a Parker 275 which I bought so I could do some racing as well as shoal draft cruising. But as I said before I should imagine you would be very happy with the Jeanneau. Point is really a person needs about 3 different boats to satisfy all the criteria!
 
I've seen a Feeling 326 lift keel for sale, Bark and Barter (sic) (Clarke and Carter...) I believe........ More roomy (much) and maybe faster....... aah, not quite walk through transom
 
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