Jeanneau smart (or not so smart) parking

[john john]

Has anyone any experience of the new breed of Jeanneau and it's 360 parking system? There's a big yellow sticker by the throttle saying not to sail in neutral at speed. I understand that there is a possibility that water may be sucked into the engine block via the exhaust otherwise. It seems that a yellow sticker, which may be in the wrong language, or may come unstuck is a rather feeble way to deal with a potentially catastrophic problem.

 

[Athene V30]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keF-WvcFoio

Why do you need a fancy (ie liable to go wrong) 'parking' system to get a boat into a gap that size!

 

[prv]

Has anyone any experience of the new breed of Jeanneau and it's 360 parking system? There's a big yellow sticker by the throttle saying not to sail in neutral at speed. I understand that there is a possibility that water may be sucked into the engine block via the exhaust otherwise.

Why does the fancy parking system (which I understood to be auto control of steering, throttle, and bow-thruster) have anything to do with the exhaust system?

Pete

 

[panthablue]

You have to say, whether you like this kind of over simplification of boat handling or not. It's a clever piece of kit.

The video though - yuck. Talk about dumbing down. I gave it nine out of ten on my vomitometer.

 

[[70521]]

And it ties the boat up for you, that's amazing!

 

[davidej]

I dont claim to be an expert in these systems but isn't an essential ingredient a saildrive unit which will swivel?

By turning it 90 degrees and using the bow thruster the boat can go sideways.

 

[Simondjuk]

Yep, the saildrive leg can rotate through 360 degrees.

Clever, but only needed by those who can't drive a boat.

 

[Mistroma]

The video though - yuck. Talk about dumbing down. I gave it nine out of ten on my vomitometer.

You had to be there to really experience it. I'm pretty certain that was filmed in Les Sables d'Olonne last year. We were there around 17th July and I remember watching a 45DS going sideways into the berth opposite. They made a few passes and did a lot of posing. I didn't spot the camera so just thought they were a load of ... well I won't say but it was pretty yuccy.

Really nice day and I'd just gone into a small berth opposite and let the current push me onto the pontoon (bowthruster not required). So I thought the spinning around and going side on was just showing off.

However, not quite that bad if they were actors making a film.

Update: Just noticed that the film was uploaded 2011 so I might just have been watching some genuine poseurs after all.

 

[snooks]

Posted back in 2010

 

[Simondjuk]

If it uses the saildrive to shift the arse end of the boat, surely the engine has to be running. If the engine was running, why didn't Mr Ohh La La simply go astern using the regular throttle?

Also, why were there fenders available? Weren't they real French people?

 

[Rossynant]

And it ties the boat up for you, that's amazing!

In good auld days such maneuvers were only possible under sail.
Now, when it's prohibited to sail in harbours, so new ways of turning around must be devised, sure thing...

Seriously, only one drawback with this system - why would somebody want a sailboat so easily drifting sideways...

 

[John.edwards]

You had to be there to really experience it. I'm pretty certain that was filmed in Les Sables d'Olonne last year. We were there around 17th July and I remember watching a 45DS going sideways into the berth opposite. They made a few passes and did a lot of posing. I didn't spot the camera so just thought they were a load of ... well I won't say but it was pretty yuccy.

Really nice day and I'd just gone into a small berth opposite and let the current push me onto the pontoon (bowthruster not required). So I thought the spinning around and going side on was just showing off.

However, not quite that bad if they were actors making a film.

Update: Just noticed that the film was uploaded 2011 so I might just have been watching some genuine poseurs after all.

when I see a boat doing maneouvres over and over i generally assume they are either learning or practising rather than posing. How else can anyone gain skills?

 

[maby]

We nearly bought one till I discovered that they do not have a reverse gear - rely on spinning the saildrive in half a second - great when it's nice and new but in ten years time you could find yourself unable to stop!

 

[lustyd]

We nearly bought one till I discovered that they do not have a reverse gear - rely on spinning the saildrive in half a second - great when it's nice and new but in ten years time you could find yourself unable to stop!

Why do you need reverse to stop? Perhaps the money would be better spent learning to handle a boat?

 

[mjcoon]

Why do you need reverse to stop? Perhaps the money would be better spent learning to handle a boat?

Does yours have brakes? Or breaks?

Mike.

 

[Mistroma]

when I see a boat doing maneouvres over and over i generally assume they are either learning or practising rather than posing. How else can anyone gain skills?

I wasn't referring to the actual maneuvering. I remembered it because they went past us twice and had rather fixed smiles and sort of odd stare into space as if we weren't there. I've seen lots of people practising things (and done that myself). I don't expect to engage them in conversation but you usually get a nod to acknowledge your presence when very close. It stuck in my mind as odd and I thought filming might have been an answer.

 

[onesea]

Why do you need reverse to stop? Perhaps the money would be better spent learning to handle a boat?

I used to teach people how to handle motor boats before they went on there holiday. Usual story a couple of hours and off they go, if some one was a speed king/ queen I would let them wind themselves up to a good speed.

Just before the locks around the bend, then ask them "where the brake pedal is on this boat I can never remember" and start looking for it....

Varied reactions:
You being passed "control",
Stunned stillness, startled rabbit
Into Neutral and watch impending disaster,
Hard Astern, normally the most humorous cavitation, prop wash, loud clunks from gear box you got them all
I had one person who went to pull the stop for the engine, logical I suppose?

 

[maby]

Does yours have brakes? Or breaks?

Mike.

Indeed! Perhaps he's one of those that never parks his boat in a finger berth - when I put our boat into our berth at the marina, I need to come in at walking pace to maintain steering, then need to stop in quite a short distance - hard to do without reverse!

 

[maby]

I used to teach people how to handle motor boats before they went on there holiday. Usual story a couple of hours and off they go, if some one was a speed king/ queen I would let them wind themselves up to a good speed.

Just before the locks around the bend, then ask them "where the brake pedal is on this boat I can never remember" and start looking for it....

Varied reactions:
You being passed "control",
Stunned stillness, startled rabbit
Into Neutral and watch impending disaster,
Hard Astern, normally the most humorous cavitation, prop wash, loud clunks from gear box you got them all
I had one person who went to pull the stop for the engine, logical I suppose?

All true, but you still need reverse for delicate close quarters work.

 

[RupertW]

I was taught never to use reverse when parking - due perhaps to my fathers use of 1950s technology that left us sailing into a few berths. However you have to do a lot of choosing upwind or uptime berths, use of warps and ferry moors, and now I'm more than happy to use both gears.

In recent years I have preferred the Med way of stern to berthing into finger berths as the blast ahead to stop the boat is so much more powerful than the blast astern - and of course you are at the right end of the boat to drive it and judge distances precisely.