Jeanneau Prestige 36

[jmw]

I'm considering buying a Prestige 36 with KAMD 300/285hp (having sold my 1990 Targa 30/33) but have no experience of the boat or brand.

Are there are any owners (past or present) that could give me some advice on what is good and not so good and things to look out for?

It looks a great boat for the money and whilst I appreciate that it may not have the sea keeping of my Targa I'm led to believe that the Prestige should be comfortable enough (mainly Solent trips) and seems to offer everything we need.

Cheers.

Joe

 

[volvopaul]

Light heartedly I will say engine access is somewhat different to other makes of boat( in other words a PITA!!!)

 

[Cashbuyer]

Thread from 2009 from owners etc. Worth a read.
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?208205-Jeanneau-Prestige-36-Views-and-experiences
For price and size and age, hard to beat.

 

[LittleShip]

Light heartedly I will say engine access is somewhat different to other makes of boat( in other words a PITA!!!)

That won't matter to the owner Paul........ you'll be doing the servicing.

I have to say that I was surprised at the engine access on a friends 36 Prestige, and erm the fuel consumption :nonchalance:

Tom.

 

[alt]

I was considering a 32/36 but after getting some feedback here decided the lack of engine access was a put-off as I do all my own servicing

 

[Racingfrank7]

I was considering a 32/36 but after getting some feedback here decided the lack of engine access was a put-off as I do all my own servicing

Depends on what engines are fitted.
6 cyls yes it's tight.

4cyls way more room than 99% of modern cars.

And also applies for fuel economy

If you do your own work I would suggest looking at both engines bays and deciding for
Yourself as your the only one that knows your own DIY skills / limitations. Rather than ruling it out because others say they are difficult.

Ps have you seen how squashed together some targa engines are making certain jobs a pain ?!

 

[jmw]

Tom & Racingfrank7 - any idea/experiance of fuel consumption?

VolvoPaul - as Tom says, it's you that will be doing the work so let me know how painful (expensive) it is...

Thanks,

Joe

 

[LittleShip]

Tom & Racingfrank7 - any idea/experiance of fuel consumption?

VolvoPaul - as Tom says, it's you that will be doing the work so let me know how painful (expensive) it is...

Thanks,

Joe

The specs say 70lts/hr

We went to IOM a couple of years ago a trip of about 150 miles approx round trip, cost near £500 in fuel and we weren't thrashing it...... far too rich for my blood. I could do the same trip for around £100 but much slower ?

Tom.

 

[gravygraham]

I reckon on about 1.5mpg at 22kts. Although I keep all my diesel records, that figure is anecdotal and not based on my real-life usage. I've always thought that unless you're knocking up hundreds of hours a year it's not worth worrying too much about diesel costs - berthing, servicing, insurance and maintenance costs far outweigh fuel. But then we only average about 30-40 hrs a year.

When we were looking for our 36 the hunt was mainly based on condition. I wasn't too fussed if we had D4's or D6's as I'd be having them professionally serviced. All I wanted was reasonable access to the strainers and dipsticks. Some boats had wet bilges, some had crazed saloon windows, and some had saloon and helm seat coverings which had faded unevenly.

Enjoy shopping.

 

[jmw]

Hi Tom & Gravygraham,

1.5 mpg at cruising speed is much as expected as I got 1.5 to 2.0 from my Targa - albeit at a faster cruising speed.

We too probably do 30-40 hours per year so the increased fuel costs are not significant compared to all the other factors as mentioned.

Condition is paramount (for future re-sale) and there are some good condition boats out there although in our price range we are looking at KAMD300 rather than D4/D6.

Gravygraham - based on your experience, does she handle well with a bit of chop as I have been led to believe that Jeanneau's can be a little 'slammy' although I have also been told that it tends to be the smaller boats.

Thanks all.

Joe

 

[Nautibusiness]

Joe

In a following sea, keep on the throttle and the 36 loves it.
A little firm in a head sea, but no worse than other similar sized boats in the same class. Trim down a little on the tabs and that sorts the worst out, slow down a little and keep going.

Remarkably easy boat to handle in tight spaces and very stable for her size when at sea. They are not the Bentleys of boats, but I am sure you know that. They are a lot of value for money though.

 

[gravygraham]

I bow to Nautibusiness' opinion Joe as I've little experience of other mobo' like the 36.

 

[Truro Ex Pat]

I had one and would not say eng access a problem, mine had a hull issue and after a great deal of money spent on legals got Jeanneau to take it back to the factory and had hull repair, not that good a job but managed to sell it, would not go near them personaly, bought a Cranchi and much better build quality.

 

[alt]

I had one and would not say eng access a problem, mine had a hull issue and after a great deal of money spent on legals got Jeanneau to take it back to the factory and had hull repair, not that good a job but managed to sell it, would not go near them personaly, bought a Cranchi and much better build quality.

Could you elaborate? I still have a Prestige 36 in my head as a possibility, when I (eventually) get over my sports-cruiser obsession (funnily enough, I also now have a Cranchi, albeit a sports cruiser)

 

[Nautibusiness]

I had one and would not say eng access a problem, mine had a hull issue and after a great deal of money spent on legals got Jeanneau to take it back to the factory and had hull repair, not that good a job but managed to sell it, would not go near them personaly, bought a Cranchi and much better build quality.

It hadn't been reversed hard into the steel piles of the wall at Salterns Marina in Poole had it???

That's the only one I know of that has had hull issues, but they weren't caused by the factory. They were caused by an extremely likeable more senior Irish gentleman who used to help me out at weekends... Funniest "accident" I have ever had the misfortune to witness.

Biggest regular hull issues I have come across have come from some of our Italian friends who also build vessels approaching Superyacht status.
I've worked with and around literally dozens of P36s and not heard of faulty hulls.

 

[volvopaul]

It hadn't been reversed hard into the steel piles of the wall at Salterns Marina in Poole had it???

That's the only one I know of that has had hull issues, but they weren't caused by the factory. They were caused by an extremely likeable more senior Irish gentleman who used to help me out at weekends... Funniest "accident" I have ever had the misfortune to witness.

Biggest regular hull issues I have come across have come from some of our Italian friends who also build vessels approaching Superyacht status.
I've worked with and around literally dozens of P36s and not heard of faulty hulls.

I have been present at two hull surveys of this make of boat, BOTH had hull issues, one had the thruster tube parting from the hull, it also had an extremely thin lay up in an area too close to the bottom of the V about midships and what the surveyor called Air pockets where the matt would have been dry and not coated in resin, it later turned out this was the case after a specialist ground out the hull from the outside to reveal an empty space.
The second one was a sports cruiser about 38ft, it had similar hull lay up issues and was of course rejected by the purchaser. Still good value boats for the money IMHO .

 

[alt]

I love this forum. Think i'll employ a surveyor if I ever go down the route of a P36

 

[Cashbuyer]

I had one and would not say eng access a problem, mine had a hull issue and after a great deal of money spent on legals got Jeanneau to take it back to the factory and had hull repair, not that good a job but managed to sell it, would not go near them personaly, bought a Cranchi and much better build quality.

I know of an Elling that has allegedly had hull issues. So price is not necessarily an indicator of quality of build.

 

[Truro Ex Pat]

I had the boat surveyed and at the time nothing was identified but came to sell it and it was spotted. I had extensive delamination on the hull and had to take core samples all over the boat, as I said it was repaired but the repair Jeanneau did waas best say avaerage and it came up again when sold and cost me £10,000 discount.
They were good value for money boats but I would never have another, dealing with the french nothing was urgent and I beleive it was due to the resin not being sprayed correctly during manufacture, it was all over the hull both sides and also rear,Hope this helps.

 

[jmw]

Many thanks for all the replies.

Looking at my requirements and speaking to a few people, we now have to weigh up the engines and I hope someone can give me a little more information.

We have seen a boat with D4 260hp and another with D4 300hp. The larger engine is just about pushing it out of my price range but I don't want to end up with an underpowered boat!

So anyone out there have experience of either engines in a Prestige 36 that can give me a steer on whether the 260hp is plenty good enough or underpowered?

Cheers,

Joe