charlumax
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For an EU VAT paid boat moored in Spain, how long can a UK citizen stay on board in a year ?
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Sticky Fingers
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90 days in every 180.
Sticky Fingers
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VAT status is irrelevant to that of course, also the mooring location. It’s the br**it dividend.
Hurricane
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IF you are UK resident, it is the same as staying anywhere in Europe.
You are allowed to stay 90 days in 180 days.
The 180 days is a rolling 180 days.
The best way of calculating it is:-
At any time of the year, count back 180 days and if you have done more than 90 days, you have overstayed.
There is a good Schengen calculator - here Schengen Visa Calculator
Hurricane
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Strictly speaking that is 90 days in ANY 180 days - not EVERY
Sticky Fingers
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Ah yes. Semantics but important. Except that you can’t selectively pick the ‘any’ either… it’s a rolling window, your calculator link is helpful.
Hurricane
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OK agreed - I should have said ANY CONTINUOUS 180 day period
Momac
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For the avoidance of doubt the 90 in 180 day rule applies to days you are in the EU which may not be the same as days staying on board the boat.
eg if you fly in and out you effectively lose part of a day out of the allowance every time you fly.
Sticky Fingers
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Yes that’s right, it’s midnights that you need to count.
dunedin
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Actually the days in Schengen, not the EU. So days in Norway count, for example, but days in Ireland (also EU) don't
Seastoke
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People seem to think the 90 day rule is a brex thing but is it not for anywhere in the world.
dunedin
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It wasn't an issue for UK citizens until Bxxxx. Yes it applies to many other 3rd country citizens - though some have special deals which are better than ours
Momac
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I had not realised Republic of Ireland is exempt. Went there recently for the first time. No passport stamp. There were some border checks made but only a few random samples.
Would have expected vehicles with children on board to be passport checked but not so.
I guess if folks are abducting children they would not be going to Ireland.
dunedin
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UK Ireland - Common Travel Area
Greg2
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Interestingly EU citizens can come to the U.K. and stay for up to six months per visit (not per year).
john m
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Thanks for the help so far I’m just trying to get as much info as possible does anyone have an idea of the cheaper marinas in Mallorca
jfm
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It's neither. It's 90 days in the immediately preceding 180 days, assessed on the day for which you are determining whether you're permitted to be in schengen on that day.
So once you have identified the day on which you want to know whether you may or may not be in schengen, you have no choice about which 180 days you must examine. It isn't any or every - there is one specific 180 day period that you must examine.
It's a dynamic test on a rolling road. You could be allowed in schengen today but locked out of schengen tomorrow, or locked out of schengen today but allowed in tomorrow.
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jfm
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I dont think that is at all correct. Any day on which you spend some time in schengen, even say 1 hour, counts as a full day in Schengen. No fractions allowed, and there is no "midnights" rule.
You may be mixing up with the SRT in UK law - in that UK tax residence test you usually look only at midnights. But that has nothing at all to do with Schengen 90/180 rules.
jfm
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You count the day you fly into schengen as one schengen day, and you count the day you fly out of Schengen as one schengen day. There are no "part[ s] of a day"
Momac
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Yes that's exactly that's exactly what I wrote.