Jack Tar No.1 stove

[ianc1200]

Apologies for a thread almost nobody going to be interested in, but just in case it's of some use.

I have a 26' bawley yacht, Storm, previously owned by Maurice Griffiths. In one of his books he mentioned about the coal stove he had in Storm, and he installed in Nightfall when he subsequently bought her, called a "Jack Tar No. 1 stove".

I've become a little obsessed with trying to find out what sort of stove this is, and have eventually acquired one.

These were made by Smith and Wellstood at their Bonnybridge, Scotland, Columbian Stoveworks foundry.

As stated above, of almost no interest to most, but it's taken me quite some time to track this information down, so may save somebody the trouble in the future.

 

[KINGFISHER 9]

£1/2s/0d .... bit pricey! ... congratulations on your detective work and finding one! I expect the price has gone up! And you're wrong, your little tale is very interesting! ... :encouragement:

 

[RobinBirch]

IanC -very interesting but you can't not post a photo of your acquisition! Are you going to install it in Storm?

 

[DoubleEnder]

Yes photos please. I like the enclosed ash pan and would be interested in seeing that

 

[sideshowbob]

Agree with the other posts. Reveal all!

 

[Flynnbarr]

I'm also interested

 

[ianc1200]

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Sorry for the poor photo's/background which makes it difficult to see the features.

There was another for sale November 2016 and that one appears to have a simple flat plate at the front, rather than the "V" section which I assume is the ash pit. Similar, but more ornate stoves by the same manufacturer, "The Queenie" stove however does have a similar pit, covered with a plate. The chap who specialises in restoring these stoves says it may be a later/improved version.

See

http://osbornerestoration.co.uk/

although the page has been under reconstruction for about a week. When it's back it's a good source of photo's of similar stoves being restored.

Re putting in Storm, not at present, as i've just had another stove, called an Arctic restored

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here in the unrestored state.

When we got Storm, I looked at the Dick Durham biography of Maurice Griffiths, and saw two detailed photo's of Storm at Heybridge Basin, with the flue clearly in front of the cabin trunk, alongside the base of the mast. At present Storm has a main cabin, a bulkhead under the cabin front, and a smaller front cabin with two bunks. The flue opening was still there. I couldn't work out how this was done - was the stove in the front cabin? - until I looked through my pile of 1920's/30's Yachting Monthlies. MG had put an advert for Storm in the March 1931 edition, and included a very small general layout drawing. The boat was open plan with no bulkhead, with the stove under the cabin front. (Further detective work later revealed the cabin had been lengthened/the cockpit shortened by about 18", which also, because of the engine box, dictated the entry into the cabin couldn't be reverted back to the two offset, inward opening doors present in MG's time).



Storm in her homewaters - The Walton Backwaters - September 2016

 

[RobinBirch]

Thanks for posting the photos. Other than the damage to the top, the stove looks in pretty good condition. Are you planning on getting it fettled and installed?

 

[ianc1200]

Yes, will go to Osbourne Restoration, but there's a 10-12 month wait!

 

[Bryony3]

We own Nightfall a 31" gaff cutter owned by Maurice Griffiths in the 1930s. In his book 10 small yachts he says that she too had a Jacktar number one stove which we wanted to replace. Thank you for this information it's been most interesting. We had to order a Sardine stove, from navigator stove works in America, but we are really pleased.

 

[ianc1200]

Hi Bryony

I guess this photo is either yours or (the late) David Cade's copyright, but a great historic photo of Nightfall & Storm together in mid 90's.

 

[Bryony3]

Thank you for this photo, it is a picture of her before she was restored - what a mess. she looked. I wanted to add some photos of the stove we installed which might be of interest to you but as I'm new to this forum I not sure how! We are so impressed in your hard work to find a Jacktar No1 stove, I'm really amazed - and quite envious. I could email you some photos of Nightfall if you are interested you could contact me through my husbands website: martyn mackrill.co.uk Where is Storm kept? How long have you owner her?

 

[ianc1200]

Bryony - I'll contact via Martyn's website.

 

[ianc1200]

Returned today refurbished.

 

[Kukri]

Gosh, that looks good.

 

[Bryony3]

That looks really beautiful. are you going to put it in Storm?

 

[ianc1200]

Bryony, yes, hopefully very soon. We're at the stage you were many years ago with Nightfall, Storm will need a total rebuild within a few years. We sailed her relentlessly on the east coast last year, up to 80 pump strokes per hour from 20 previous three seasons. Hull repairs currently been done. I'm working to MG's 1931 plan layout, so bulkhead and bunks have gone, and once we've looked at a few keelbolts and frame bolts, the re-building can begin, on what is an exercise to try and get the internal layout right, ahead of Brian Kennell & Shaun White rebuilding her.

 

[Wansworth]

All the fun will go if you stop the leaks!

 

[banger]

I was a couple of boats up from Nightfall in Downs Road Boatyard when she came up for sale 70/71 I think, had a look at her but Dickie who had the yard then told me she needed a lot of work, bought by a chap who moved on with family, paid, I think, a grand, quite a bit of money then, seem to remember they lived on her for five years.

 

[Wobbo]

Nice...I've got a stove pipe in the garden I found on an unknown wreck a while back, wonder if it's off one of those.