Jabsco Toilet Sizes - Replacement

[Aja]

The time has come to replace the whole toilet on my Moody. The pump assembly is slowly leaking and drips, the seat and seat cover screws are badly rusted.

The toilet is a Brydon Boy. Does anyone know if the Jabsco Compact or even Regular is a direct replacement?

This is what the Headmistress says in another forum:

"The Brydon Boy was Canadian version of the Jabsco manual toilet, discontinued in the early 1980s. No parts have been available for at least 15 years...Jabsco used to offer a "universal" rebuild kit that fit the SeaLand 751 and 752 and the Brydon, but they discontinued that nearly 10 years ago."

TIA

Donald

 

[sailorman]

the best jabsco is a Lavac

 

[Aja]

So. Are you saying the Lavac is a direct replacement? I'll order one now.

Thanks
Donald

 

[ostell]

Jabsco & Lavac are 2 differrent manufacturers. Some prefer Lavac, others prefer Jabsco.

 

[Aja]

I knew the answer to that one. Thanks for confirming it though.

Regards
Donald

 

[VicS]

Go for a Lavac.
Most prefer the Lavac.
Vyv Cox prefers the Jabscos

But no its not a direct replacement...... it must be plumbed in as per the instructions.

See http://www.blakes-lavac-taylors.co.uk/pdf/lavac.pdf before you commit yourself

 

[V1701]

Sorry I can't answer your question but my old boat had a jabsco, new one has a Baby Blake which is a revelation in comparison, so if you have to adapt my recommendation is the Baby Blake...

 

[Tranona]

Nothing wrong with a Jabsco, although a Lavac is in many ways better - but at a price. I have both (in different boats) and both work well.

 

[VicS]

recommendation is the Baby Blake...

Jeez I just looked at the price. I'd want someone supplied with it to do the paper work for that much.

 

[JKay]

The time has come to replace the whole toilet on my Moody. The pump assembly is slowly leaking and drips, the seat and seat cover screws are badly rusted.

The toilet is a Brydon Boy. Does anyone know if the Jabsco Compact or even Regular is a direct replacement?

This is what the Headmistress says in another forum:

"The Brydon Boy was Canadian version of the Jabsco manual toilet, discontinued in the early 1980s. No parts have been available for at least 15 years...Jabsco used to offer a "universal" rebuild kit that fit the SeaLand 751 and 752 and the Brydon, but they discontinued that nearly 10 years ago."

TIA

Donald

simple's no bollox fit a compact if bollox fitted you need a regular

 

[mitiempo]

Jabsco and Lavac heads are designed for different sailors.

The Jabsco is for those who don't mind working on the head.

The Lavac is designed for those that require reliability and durability without issues.

I think the Baby Blake is for the very rich.

Happy Lavac customer who tired of rebuilding Jabsco heads.

 

[billcowan]

Jabsco and Lavac heads are designed for different sailors.

The Jabsco is for those who don't mind working on the head.

The Lavac is designed for those that require reliability and durability without issues.

I think the Baby Blake is for the very rich.

Happy Lavac customer who tired of rebuilding Jabsco heads.

Yes I will second third and umteenth that, the Lavac works out cheaper in no time, when you consider the £25 a season that the jabsco uses in rubber bits, (anyone want 10 left over joker valves?)

The only thing wrong with the Lavac is the disposition of the inlet and outlet on the pump,
makes it bloody difficult to site and means lots of very tightly bent pipe, (you can get ****e pipe with wire re-enforcing which bends to a tighter radius than the usual all plastic stuff)

Why cant Blakes make a pump with the connections coming straight out the bottom?

 

[Searush]

(snip)
Why cant Blakes make a pump with the connections coming straight out the bottom?

They do, simply realign the body of the pump.

Unfortunately you will find the inlet or outlet will interfere with the handle action! It might work quite well with a horizontal I/L & O/L tho if that helps.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Yes I will second third and umteenth that, the Lavac works out cheaper in no time, when you consider the £25 a season that the jabsco uses in rubber bits, (anyone want 10 left over joker valves?)

Heads/toilets are as bad as anchor discussions for bringing out the 'mine is better than yours brigade.' How much of the 'Lavac is better than Jabsco' argument comes from those who have shelled out lots of money (and I mean lots) for a Lavac then have to justify their expenditure to themselves and all who will listen.

I have used BOTH Lavac and Jabsco over the years. If people are blocking their Jabsco's or shelling out on new valves every year, they must be using a different Jabsco to the one we have. In the six years we have had the current boat, I have serviced both the heads with new valves once - and then I discovered it wasn't really the valves that needed replacing, but it was bits of twig that had got sucked up into the pump and which were stopping them working.

I also recall having to strip down the pump on a Lavac Sytem more than once in past boats - sometimes it was EXTREMELEY unpleasant - being sprayed in the face with the contents of the pump under pressure as you release the cover is not one of the memories I treasure.

There are thousands of Jabsco heads in use - just pump them properly and they will even deal with moderate amounts of loo paper. Both Lavac and Jabsco produce good heads, pay your money and make your choice, but I don't think its as clear cut a choice as some people wish to make out.

 

[pvb]

There are thousands of Jabsco heads in use - just pump them properly and they will even deal with moderate amounts of loo paper. Both Lavac and Jabsco produce good heads, pay your money and make your choice, but I don't think its as clear cut a choice as some people wish to make out.

Agreed - I can't understand all the criticism of Jabsco. I suspect it's because Jabsco are more common, so there's more of them around than Lavacs. We've had both Lavacs and Jabscos on boats over the years, and prefer the Jabsco. One aspect of the Lavac which I don't like is having to wait for the vacuum to fade before being able to lift the lid, and the fact that flushing often wets the seat. The Jabsco on the current boat is 20 years old and hasn't been a problem. I grease the piston with silicone grease every year.

 

[vyv_cox]

Go for a Lavac.
Most prefer the Lavac.
Vyv Cox prefers the Jabscos

No I don't. I would like to fit a Lavac and spent a long time last year measuring up for one. We concluded that the heads compartment on a Sadler 34 is just too small to accommodate the pump in conjunction with a holding tank, unless I was prepared to do away with all stowage in there, which I am not.

We fitted a Jabsco LITE, the new electric version. So far it has been good, although it struggles to eject solids in a single cycle. Electricity consumption is negligible, noise is not excessive and it is much easier on arthritic fingers.

 

[pcatterall]

I will soon be joining the ranks of marine toilet experts as the bogs have been removed from my 'new' boat. I intend fitting a portaloo in the after heads and some kind of marine toilet fwd. Just wondering if anyone make a macerater type loo like those you can fit in buildings when waste pipe is a problem or the material needs to be pumped higher for some reason. Wouldnt this help with the eternal problem of little pipes and large thingies.
What do these electric ones like the jabasco do for their money?

 

[mitiempo]

I am not a fan of the electric Jabsco with the macerator/pump in one housing at the back of the head. I rebuilt one twice in the last year for a friend and found it hard to work on as the whole head had to be removed to get to it.

Another friend has a regular Jabsco converted to electric in a much easier to service way. It was done by a previous owner. He basically threw away the manual pump and remotely mounted separate inlet and macerator pumps. 2 buttons side by side on the bulkhead, push intake, push and outlet, and then just outlet until bowl is empty. The inlet pump was just replaced for about $300 after 21 years! I forget the model but it is a metal housing impellor pump. He finds the macerator pumps last about 5 or 6 years. He lives aboard and it sees daily use. There has never been a problem other than pump replacement.

I live aboard as well and my Lavac is 100% trouble free. There are 2 pumps available and I used the flush mount one aqnd mounted it behind a removable panel. Hose runs were very straight forward, inlet at the bottom and outlet on the top. The seat never gets wet during flushing.

 

[samwise]

Jabsco and Lavac heads are designed for different sailors.

The Jabsco is for those who don't mind working on the head.

The Lavac is designed for those that require reliability and durability without issues.

I think the Baby Blake is for the very rich.

Happy Lavac customer who tired of rebuilding Jabsco heads.

One big advantage of the Lavac is that you can use the one pump to perform a number of functions ( if you get the plumbing right). Diverter valves can allow you to pump to sea, pump to holding tank and pump out the tank.

 

[mitiempo]

Certainly a Lavac pump can be diverted to pump the holding tank out. But to both pump to the holding tank and to pump the holding tank out would require a fairly complicated set of diverter valves and hoses I think. And more connections to leak possibly.