It's about time to survey the next boat. I need recommendations.

[peterjaw]

Good day, captains,

After 3 seasons of boating, I am thinking about my next boat.

I am far away from Europe and difficult to collect information, so I need your recommendations. My
criteria and needs are as followed:

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Usage:
1. Angling for couple hours.1 or 2 person. (60% of usage)
2. Couple hours of anchorge in a small bay. Mostly 4 or 5 persons, at most 7 persons. (40% of usage)
3. The longest non-stop cruise is 2 days (1 night) with 6 ~ 7 persons on board.
4. No live aboard requirement.

Interior/Exterior:
1. 2 rooms with doors.
2. 1 head with separate shower is preferred.
3. Aft galley is preferred.
4. Prefer to have interior be as simple/elegent as possible. No need bulky sofa, huge dinnet area...
5. Sunbathing is not needed.
6. Fully enclosed cabin for escaping from sudden storm/rain.
7. Need a side door for helm station.
8. Eay access to engine services.

Technical Specification:
1. No IPS.
2. Shaft drive is preferred.
3. Ideal boat length is between 38 ~ 44 feet.
4. Prefer NOT to have a fly bridge.
5. Cruising speed around 20 ~ 22 knots. WOT around 30 knots.
6. Maximum Cruise range: 250 nm. with build-in tank.
7. Prefer to have CAT engine.
8. 110V/60Hz power system needed.
9. As comfort as possible in rough conditions.

Budget: US$500000 ~ US$550000. I assume I don't need to pay VAT for the boats that exported to Asia. Am I right?

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Currently, I own a Quicksilver 855 weekend with 300HP outboard.

Would you please recommend some suitable boats for me? For narrowing down the scope, I would like to start from new boats.

Appreciate for any recommendation.

 

[Portofino]

Something from a established dealer nearby .

 

[BruceK]

Does it have to be a European boat because what you are describing Americans do better imo.

take a look at some of these makes Best Sport Fishing Boats

 

[peterjaw]

Does it have to be a European boat because what you are describing Americans do better imo.

take a look at some of these makes Best Sport Fishing Boats

It doesn't have to be European boat, but those American boats you mentioned are all fishing boats which my family don't
like how they look.

 

[peterjaw]

Something from a established dealer nearby .

There are very limited dealers in Taiwan, and the boat shows are canceled due to the pandemic. Therefore, I would like
to do some homework in the cyber world before my next movement.

In Taiwan, as far as I know, there are dealers for Quicksilver, Jeanneau, Barvavia, Beneteau, Nimbus, Leopard, Lagoon, Axopar, Sea Line, Princesses. But none of them have good reputation among boat owners.

 

[peterjaw]

From information that I have collected, I think Swift Trawler 41 can be an candidate.

Do you agree? Or, why not?

 

[tico]

Ni hao Peter- Princess is certainly a good make, but for you the dealer is in Taichung.
Beneteau Swift trawler would appear to meet some of your needs - Perhaps a PM to Bouba (on this forum) might get some help - He has a smaller version.

 

[BruceK]

It doesn't have to be European boat, but those American boats you mentioned are all fishing boats which my family don't
like how they look.

Apologies. I thought by 60% angling you were after a boat suited to fishing. European cruisers are anything but suited. Wait till you get a fish hook stuck in the cockpit vinyls and you'll see why.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Apologies. I thought by 60% angling you were after a boat suited to fishing. ...

@peterjaw - How non-fishing-boat in appearance, but suitable for fishing in function, do you want?

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Lobster boat style might appeal...

This the Eastbay 44:


Or a European boat. Mochi Dolphin. Other colours are available...

 

[Portofino]

How important is this number 6 on the second list , the enclosed space for storms thing ?

Otherwise out of the 21 sum on your three lists a Itama 38 hits 19/21 .
The two it misses are the “ new “ and number 6 as mentioned ^^^ .

With the “ new “ there are many refurbed examples with CATs etc and you will have bags of cash headroom to do whst ever, like have a HT and a semi fishing look .

Full fact fisher look next door.

 

[Portofino]

From information that I have collected, I think Swift Trawler 41 can be an candidate.

Do you agree? Or, why not?

Not fast enough .
In a chop it will fail this you say ...”.9. As comfort as possible in rough conditions.“
You need to fast plane without slamming and those ST s .

Speed means you can get home quicker out run it .
Deep V , deadrise of over 20 degree means ( mines 23 btw ) fits the “ —— as possible —— “ if I understand your detailed and not unreasonable wish list ??
Without strict adherence to number 9 , you will be Billy no mates , on your own your family will cock off trips out with slightest hint of a breeze.

 

[Whippersnapper]

From information that I have collected, I think Swift Trawler 41 can be an candidate.

Do you agree? Or, why not?

it has a semi displacement hull so will be cruising at 16 knots and max of 22-23.

 

[paradave]

It’s remarkable the old ‘posters will always recommend their own boats, regardless of what’s wanted’!

 

[Whippersnapper]

on paper a Prestige 420S ticks most of the boxes (not sure you’ll get anything with a cat in it) but some feel the quality isn’t there for the internal materials etc but it’s twin shaft, galley aft, twin cabins and single head.

Being from NZ a boat I like is the AT43, it is galley up, 2 or 3 cabins, single head, shaft drive (single or twins). The boat is a production version of an original custom design from a well respected designer.

The Elite AT43 | Auckland | Allan Tongs Boat Builders

 

[Portofino]

It’s remarkable the old ‘posters will always recommend their own boats, regardless of what’s wanted’!

I guess that’s aimed at me .Sorry I thought I qualified the reasons .What was wanted by using the info the OP posted .
Summing his 3 lists into 21 bulletin points and finding a boat 19 out of the 21.
Then proposing get arounds for the other 2 , one of which was only “ new “ .

For the record my “ own “ boat MAN engines so I discounted it , the 38 has CATs .
I f it was not me who were you referring to ?
Can you put up a proposition to beat 19 ? . From the OP s requirement list of 21 ?

Good luck with beating my 19 .

 

[Bouba]

I can’t beat 19?‍
I’m really stuck at Caterpillar engines. I think American boats are the only option, almost every European boat has Volvo’s.??‍??‍

 

[peterjaw]

Apologies. I thought by 60% angling you were after a boat suited to fishing. European cruisers are anything but suited. Wait till you get a fish hook stuck in the cockpit vinyls and you'll see why.

I notice that most European boats do not provide the same function as my Quicksilver 855 weekend --- family and angling. My Quicksilver 855
satisfies most of my criteria but just way too small and can't run far.

 

[peterjaw]

on paper a Prestige 420S ticks most of the boxes (not sure you’ll get anything with a cat in it) but some feel the quality isn’t there for the internal materials etc but it’s twin shaft, galley aft, twin cabins and single head.

Being from NZ a boat I like is the AT43, it is galley up, 2 or 3 cabins, single head, shaft drive (single or twins). The boat is a production version of an original custom design from a well respected designer.

The Elite AT43 | Auckland | Allan Tongs Boat Builders

Prestige 420S did catch my attention until I found she is equipped with IPS.

I will take a look at AT43. Thank you very much.

 

[peterjaw]

How important is this number 6 on the second list , the enclosed space for storms thing ?

Otherwise out of the 21 sum on your three lists a Itama 38 hits 19/21 .
The two it misses are the “ new “ and number 6 as mentioned ^^^ .

With the “ new “ there are many refurbed examples with CATs etc and you will have bags of cash headroom to do whst ever, like have a HT and a semi fishing look .
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Full fact fisher look next door.

Fully enclosed space is very important to me. In Taiwan, the thunder shower/storm is almost on daily base in Summer.