Italian "dolce vita"... With a twist!

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Ok, this is meant to balance a bit my other thread on the Cig 42X... :)

Scenario: overnighting in front of Portofino, waking up in glorious sunshine, and jump in the water for a swim after a morning coffee.
Sounds like a plan, doesn't it? And even more so if you're onboard a thing of sheer beauty like an Italian yacht, obviously.

Well, that's what this video is all about... Till you reach 1:20! :ambivalence:
But trust me, it's worth seeing it from the beginning!
 
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The interior designers job is made a whole lot easier by the rectangular floorplate and the vertical sides. It doesn't look too bad to me from the rear..........but from the bow....:disgust:

I can see it being popular on lakes - and you do have a few of those in IT don't you!

I only looked at the boat. :rolleyes:
 
these are getting quite common, here is a marina full of them...
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Overblue = a name which tells a story may be.

Ugly is a compliment.

I do not know if to give them an award for building this though. I think it takes courage to build it, if you know a thing or two about boats.
If not I can understand why they did it.
 
Sheesh! I watched from beginning as advised, then gasped at 1:20. What is the builder thinking? No-one will want that or buy it. Such a waste of resources. 1.46 also shows briefly that you can't stabilise a cat
 
There may not be an obvious market for folks tuned into a "boat " forum - but World wide in , overcrowded locations which have land prices / property values that are overheated surrounded by water , a floating home concept may appeal .

Wonder how many sold ? and where they are ?
Have not seen one last time I was in Portofino., in a Portofino :)
Plenty of space on Londons -Docklands ?
 
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Why not?

Many people on here use their boat like a holiday home (me) and don't mind pootling everywhere (me).
I'm not sure if buy one it hey, you get all the fun of boating and bucket loads of space.

If you do what you've always done, you get what you always got.

Not everyone needs or wants a sleek muscle machine
 
Whitelighter said:
Not everyone needs or wants a sleek muscle machine
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Says the chap with a Ferretti, LOL! :D :p
Sorry, couldn't resist - but actually, by and large I agree: also for the usage I've made of my boat in the last years, and more than likely I will make also in the foreseeable future, that floating caravan could make sense in more ways than one.
If only one could avoid seeing it from outside...! :rolleyes:
 
Agree with others, it looks pretty daft especially from the front but somewhere, someone will want this for the huge interior, could be popular for charters. I've not seen it discussed much here but I wonder what boats are popular in the far east, maybe the designers had a particular market in mind? Anyway, good luck to them, they might need it..
 
MapisM said:
Just curious, what does that remind you of, PYB?
FWIW, as I understand these folks are based in Ravenna, but I can't think of any other yards (neither current nor closed) with a similar name...
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So Ravenna builders where / are Carnevali, Dellapasqua, Innovazione Progetti, and at some point we had Enterprise Marine before they moved to Rimini.
AFAIK no connection with any of these, but I might be wrong.

There is Blue Game build in Spezia (Perotti Sanlorenzo relative and since some years part of Sanlorenzo), but those are nice indeed and designed by Lou Codega for hull lines.
 
Whitelighter said:
Though I probably should have bought something semi D but I love the 150 so what the the heck
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Funny you should say that.
Right now, I'm half considering to change my old tub for something less demanding in terms of maintenance, also because these days I'm using the boat mostly for living aboard and short cruises, and I'm not so interested anymore in long range and passage comfort.
Which is the reason why I said that even the floating caravan would tick many of my boxes, if only it wouldn't be so fugly...

And ideally, I'd love to stick to SD or D vessels, like Fleming or Nordhavn for instance, because I still see cruising as the last thing on earth that I want to do fast - things like the Cigarette being made for driving rather than cruising, which is an entirely different experience.
Trouble is, when you see what the market has to offer, on one hand there's plenty of excellent P boats (like yours) at very sensible prices, and OTOH for a comparable size/age Nordie or Flem, the asking prices are at least double, if not more.
Which doesn't make any sense in terms of value for money: 'course Nordhavns are strongly built and so forth, but for any given size, there's plenty of properly built and engineered P boats (again, like the Ferrettis, but there are others of course) whose technical content is comparable - if not even more expensive in some respects, as for the propulsion.

Bottom line, nowadays for anyone who can't afford to look at boats with a money no object approach, and doesn't want to ACTUALLY cross oceans (as opposed to the idea of being able to), a P boat mostly used for pootling is not just a matter of "I love the 150 so what the heck", but is actually a sensible choice.
Not sure yet if I will also go that route, but I'm considering it.
Oh, and before someone says "I told you that a P boat can also be used for pootling, hence it's the best of both world" (:D), that's not the way I see it.
It's still a compromise, and I maintain that no P boat on earth can compete with SD/D boats of comparable size, in terms of comfort and cruising experience.
But it's a compromise worth considering based, as I said, on what's available on the market... :)
 
Doesn't look like you get much visibility over the bow from the upper helm, and presuming there is also a lower helm at the front you would be very far forward which wouldnt be much fun if the boat is pounding.

Reminds me of a holiday boat from the Thames, I can imagine Sunsail buying a bunch of these for some Med locations.

Ants
 
Whitelighter said:
Ha, well I didn't say I didn't need a sleek muscle boat ;)
Though I probably should have bought something semi D but I love the 150 so what the the heck
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Out of interest what really contributes to the classification of a SD hull, being a SD hull can range anywhere from full displacement bias to planing bias. If I was to tell you the Formula PC I have was classed as an SD, yet the hull is without question performance based there would be some understandable confusion. Certainly I'm sceptical. Typo?

The semi displacement hull is medium to deep vee with a dead rise of approximately 16 degrees at the transom, honing up to 20 degrees amidships. The chine is toed-in with a knuckle in the topside to keep spray at bay.
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As for the floating caravan. I actually quite like it. Not sure I would want to go to sea in anything but millpond conditions but the room is most welcome for the length. At that has to count when it comes to berthing fees etc when considered as a potential liveaboard
 
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Anthony said:
presuming there is also a lower helm at the front you would be very far forward which wouldnt be much fun if the boat is pounding
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Wrong presumption, I'm afraid: as I understand, the smallish open helm upstair is the only one. Clearly not a boat designed to cross Biscay in winter! :D
Otoh, the hatch covering the bow opens up completely (not while cruising, obviously!), and underneath there's a balcony accessible from the master cabin - sort of what you get in cruise ships.
You can see briefly see the balcony and the lifting hatch at 1:30 in the video.
 
BruceK said:
Out of interest what really contributes to the classification of a SD hull
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There's no such thing as a "classification", afaik.
Which is why someone can call a Formula PC hull SD (though that's indeed weird!), Beneteau can call some planing boats trawlers, and so forth...
A hull uncompromisingly designed for planing is a P hull.
One uncompromisingly designed for displacement is a D hull.
For anything in between, only the builders fantasy is the limit... :cool:
 
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