LittleSister
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As does a shoal draft long-keeler with legs!
Speaking of which, a Samphire 23 is obviously the answer. (Albeit to a slightly different question! ;-))
It won't exist- but what is nearest?
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As does a shoal draft long-keeler with legs!
Speaking of which, a Samphire 23 is obviously the answer. (Albeit to a slightly different question! ;-))
LittleSister
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Bilge & lifting keels for taking the ground
Also be aware that if your interest in bilge and lifting keels is so that you can take the ground:
1) Most lifting keelers are designed for the purposes of trailer sailing, and will probably lack the bilge runners you would want for taking the ground to protect the hull from rocks and other projecting nasties, though there are some exceptions. Also consider that some have a 'bulb' which remains outside the hull, and even if it is safe to stand the boat on this (check this if considering one), it will leave the boat somewhat heeled when dried out.
2) Bilge keels are usully either bolt on iron castings, or encapsulated ballast (i.e. the keel is part of the hull moulding, and then filled inside with ballast). Cast iron keels will be fine taking the ground (the worst likely to happen is you'll lose some paint). Encapsulated keels are usually fine, too, taking the ground, but do be aware that if the GRP case is damaged, it must be repaired very promptly, as water ingress from cracks or chips will swell the (almost certainly iron or steel) ballast, leading to major repairs being required.
Good luck in your hunt.
Also be aware that if your interest in bilge and lifting keels is so that you can take the ground:
1) Most lifting keelers are designed for the purposes of trailer sailing, and will probably lack the bilge runners you would want for taking the ground to protect the hull from rocks and other projecting nasties, though there are some exceptions. Also consider that some have a 'bulb' which remains outside the hull, and even if it is safe to stand the boat on this (check this if considering one), it will leave the boat somewhat heeled when dried out.
2) Bilge keels are usully either bolt on iron castings, or encapsulated ballast (i.e. the keel is part of the hull moulding, and then filled inside with ballast). Cast iron keels will be fine taking the ground (the worst likely to happen is you'll lose some paint). Encapsulated keels are usually fine, too, taking the ground, but do be aware that if the GRP case is damaged, it must be repaired very promptly, as water ingress from cracks or chips will swell the (almost certainly iron or steel) ballast, leading to major repairs being required.
Good luck in your hunt.
Seajet
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I would argue with 'Most lift keelers are designed for trailer sailing' - Anderson 22's certainly aren't !
Please feel free to contact me for a sail next season, andylaw119@hotmail.com
- And there is no profit in it for me, just letting people know about a great design. I'm a qualified engineer and sailor.
Please feel free to contact me for a sail next season, andylaw119@hotmail.com
- And there is no profit in it for me, just letting people know about a great design. I'm a qualified engineer and sailor.
EuanMcKenzie
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Hunter 23
I was at Oban marina and one came alongside me.
They had just sailed round from Ardfern in a SW F5-6 through the Dorus Mhor and Sound of Luing without difficulties.
It is also nice inside vs. it size. Nice Sprayhood gave a reasonable covered varandha.
It sounds ideal as a sea boat for your needs up west
I was at Oban marina and one came alongside me.
They had just sailed round from Ardfern in a SW F5-6 through the Dorus Mhor and Sound of Luing without difficulties.
It is also nice inside vs. it size. Nice Sprayhood gave a reasonable covered varandha.
It sounds ideal as a sea boat for your needs up west
Signed Out
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Maybe late, but...
Was looking for something else and found this thread, and thought I'd post this-
http://www.botentekoop.nl/zeiljachten/836387/Hunter-1993.html
Not a bilge or lifter, but a wing. Maybe suit, maybe not, but look at the price! (P.s. copy the link, and go to google, more, translate. Paste into the box, select Dutch to English, et voila).
Was looking for something else and found this thread, and thought I'd post this-
http://www.botentekoop.nl/zeiljachten/836387/Hunter-1993.html
Not a bilge or lifter, but a wing. Maybe suit, maybe not, but look at the price! (P.s. copy the link, and go to google, more, translate. Paste into the box, select Dutch to English, et voila).
Boo2
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There's a few of your requirements missing but this Spaekhugger 24 is a lovely looking boat from the outsides (haven't seen on board).
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BurnitBlue
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For £5,000 more you could buy a GRP Twister for goodness sake. Then you could sail her around the world with the pick of the local totty.
Forget you are British for a moment and raise your sights.
Ludd
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snowleopard
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Did anyone think to ask Phil if he is still debating the same question he asked 3 1/2 months ago?