Is this really repairable?

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I came across this Bavaria 42 on Ebay, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole but is it worth repairing, no keel, no rudder, huge amount of hull damage. It's obviously been on the rocks, how much worse does a boat have to be before it's a write off, and how could you ever really be sure there aren't latent stresses that will show up in a blow? When a car is damaged and repaired at least it's categorised so any buyer is aware of its history, is there any such system in place for boats?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171348499917
 
Think that boat has been around for some time looking for a buyer.

Is it repairable? Quite probably. It is the condition of the inside that is arguably more important than damage to the hull. Biggest difficulty will be getting a keel and ensuring the support structure inside is repaired properly.

Is it worth it? Similar boats in working order are £80k+
 
Its been for sale for ever, I went to see it about 3 years ago. Its on a farm near Blackpool Wakepark, it was starting to look really sad back then, it will be a lot worse now (pretty sure the photos are 4+ years old).

I did some rough numbers back then and came up with ball park £50k to repair it. Similar boats were for sale between 70-80K and since this would always be the sunk boat with no keel, I didnt think it was worth it. I still dont.
 
landlockedpirate said:
Its been for sale for ever, I went to see it about 3 years ago. Its on a farm near Blackpool Wakepark, it was starting to look really sad back then, it will be a lot worse now (pretty sure the photos are 4+ years old).

I did some rough numbers back then and came up with ball park £50k to repair it. Similar boats were for sale between 70-80K and since this would always be the sunk boat with no keel, I didnt think it was worth it. I still dont.
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I could easily see this costing £50-60k to repair but I'd never be at ease if I got caught out in bad weather, surely there must be a level at which a boat is so badly damaged it's unrepairable of uninsurable?
 
I am surprised that the owner has not cut his losses and sold the useable parts. Mast & boom, Engine and Saildrive, anchor windlass, four winches plus a lot of other deck gear must add up to a reasonable amount. Even parts like the stantions can be sold. Of course if the engine was not properly cleaned and dried out after its immersion, or worse ingested water whilst running, it might not be worth much.
 
pmagowan said:
Why would it cost this much to repair? It looks like a few holes in the glass fibre but can you not simply cut these out and scarf in some new stuff?
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It can be done - see Nick's Berthon repair photos the other year - but holes this size are a skilled job to regain the original strength, not something for the amateur on a budget. From some of the photos it looks like there's an internal liner which is also damaged, so this one will be a complex job as well as a skilled one.

Then, once you've repaired the hull, lots of the stuff inside an AWB will need replacing. They're not built with the idea of much water getting below, so there will probably be rotten plywood, some of it structural. What you rebuild is unlikely to result in the same glossy factory finish, unless you again employ some skilled craftsmen. Lots of damaged electrics, probably. Upholstery?

A traditional wooden boat (which you're obviously thinking of) would withstand the experience much better!

Pete
 
prv said:
It can be done - see Nick's Berthon repair photos the other year - but holes this size are a skilled job to regain the original strength, not something for the amateur on a budget. From some of the photos it looks like there's an internal liner which is also damaged, so this one will be a complex job as well as a skilled one.
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+1. Furthermore, was the keel deliberately removed or ripped off? If the latter, there will almost certainly be significant structural damage to the support system, and that could be a nightmare to find and sort. It might well be be necessary to remove much of the interior and the lining you mention.

The impression I get is that this boat is for sale by a salvage car dealer with pound signs in his eyes who hasn't much idea about the difference between bodging together a Sierra and mending a boat.
 
It is repaairable but it's not worth it.At any price not even for free.As said above it's not just about plugging the holes with some glassfiber.There's the keel structure,also the rig attachment points are critical,the interior etc.The engine may have been swamped so it's probably worthless and the electrics must have been affected by all the water sloshing about when the boat was on the rocks.This is a stay away boat if I've seen one.
 
A 32 ft 13 ton fishing boat went ashore in Mylor, most of one side was damaged, they took it in, dried it (tent, dehumidifiers) and made a new side section. They used to routinely make a hull with two keel options, a rectangular section was inserted to suit, so yes, easily repaired once you have clear access and a dry hull.
 
fisherman said:
A 32 ft 13 ton fishing boat went ashore in Mylor, most of one side was damaged, they took it in, dried it (tent, dehumidifiers) and made a new side section. They used to routinely make a hull with two keel options, a rectangular section was inserted to suit, so yes, easily repaired once you have clear access and a dry hull.
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The trouble in this case is that "clear access" may required complete removal of the inside: woodwork, fittings, mouldings, the lot.
 
>how could you ever really be sure there aren't latent stresses that will show up in a blow?

There was thread a while ago where the boat was written off because of latent stresses and you can guarantee that hull has it, don't touch it.
 
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