Is this a good deal? Regal 2250

Denia to Ibiza is about 50 miles, so no problems fuel wise.
It could be one of your goals, eventually, to cross to the islands but initially you want to stick to coast hopping and having fun in the bays. Once you have confidence in the boat and your ability then you can think about it. Like I said, the journey back will be the problem and you may be stuck in Ibiza for a week or more waiting for flat seas again.
Good luck and don't be afraid to post more pictures of potential boats for us to pick apart :)
Re: transport... It might be easier to pay a company to tow it to Spain for you. I'd buy in Spain though tbh.
One last thing... If you buy a UK boat it'll need a holding tank or portapotty for use in Spain.
 
adey said:
Denia to Ibiza is about 50 miles, so no problems fuel wise.
It could be one of your goals, eventually, to cross to the islands but initially you want to stick to coast hopping and having fun in the bays. Once you have confidence in the boat and your ability then you can think about it. Like I said, the journey back will be the problem and you may be stuck in Ibiza for a week or more waiting for flat seas again.
Good luck and don't be afraid to post more pictures of potential boats for us to pick apart :)
Re: transport... It might be easier to pay a company to tow it to Spain for you. I'd buy in Spain though tbh.
One last thing... If you buy a UK boat it'll need a holding tank or portapotty for use in Spain.
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All good advice.

Re holding tank and porta potty, at what size does start to apply? Either on my open deck 4.7m Cap Camerat would look rather strange........
 
The 2250 is easy to tow, we towed my friends across Ireland not so long ago behind a RR Sport and we hardly felt it behind us (stuck at 80Km/ph)

While the engine bay does look neglected, it could be to your advantage re. haggling. Inspect it well, it could be running fine and just needs some TLC.

Re. Petrol vs. Diesel ... i've been there, done that and went from petrol to diesel. I've never looked back. My friends that followed suit have also never looked back. The initial outlay is more, yes, but what people forget is that you have a more valuable asset and therefore will be worth more (and more desirable) when it comes to re-sale.
 
CX54WEK said:
Bigplumbs said:
Yes.

Still no chance.
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It can be done, but IMHO not a great idea.
Theory is, an early 'flat' leave, then one first 20l used, fill up, do it again at 40 used or before dry.

Me, I assumed this too risky, although people do take sub 30 on 110 KNt island trip To me factor of safety a bit stretched.

However, denia - ibiza, or mallorca - ibiza, i would say are doable.
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lambohill said:
CX54WEK said:
It can be done, but IMHO not a great idea.
Theory is, an early 'flat' leave, then one first 20l used, fill up, do it again at 40 used or before dry.

Me, I assumed this too risky, although people do take sub 30 on 110 KNt island trip To me factor of safety a bit stretched.

However, denia - ibiza, or mallorca - ibiza, i would say are doable.
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The theory is all well and good. Trying to do it in practice is another matter!

Aside from the messy matter of trying to get it in the tank you also have the matter of where you are going to store the extra fuel in the first instance which on a small boat isn't going to be in many places! Then factor in all the extra weight you are lugging around and how you can balance that weight out on a small boat. It just doesn't make sense.
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CX54WEK said:
lambohill said:
The theory is all well and good. Trying to do it in practice is another matter!

Aside from the messy matter of trying to get it in the tank you also have the matter of where you are going to store the extra fuel in the first instance which on a small boat isn't going to be in many places! Then factor in all the extra weight you are lugging around and how you can balance that weight out on a small boat. It just doesn't make sense.
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I manage fine on my 19 foot Fletcher GTS. I have a 100 ltr petrol tank and If going a decent way I put in 4 10 ltr plastic cans in a locker (2 each side) This gives me a good reserve and with a jiggle syphon I can fill the tank from the 10 ltr containers very easily with no/very little spillage. This should give me 100 miles of range with spare for safety

One of the things I think people do wrong is use containers that are too large. I find the 10ltr plastic ones very good with a good top and strong and the right shape to syphon from

Dennis
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Bigplumbs said:
CX54WEK said:
I manage fine on my 19 foot Fletcher GTS. I have a 100 ltr petrol tank and If going a decent way I put in 4 10 ltr plastic cans in a locker (2 each side) This gives me a good reserve and with a jiggle syphon I can fill the tank from the 10 ltr containers very easily with no/very little spillage. This should give me 100 miles of range with spare for safety

One of the things I think people do wrong is use containers that are too large. I find the 10ltr plastic ones very good with a good top and strong and the right shape to syphon from

Dennis
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I hope the lockers where you keep the excess fuel are vented overboard.
i have seen a few go bang from vapours in the bilge.
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I am slightly confused as to what you intend to do. Visit Spain occasionally or keep it there permanently - and if so, where. Denia to IBZ is, so I am told, an easy passage because

a. Its the shortest route from the mainland to "the islands
b. A lot of vessels do it - so, god forbid, if you get into trouble, plenty of [potential] help
c. You never lose sight of land

However, if you are time limited, BCN to Denia is by far your longest passage - albeit coast hugging. We have a twin engine set up and Sant Carles to the islands its a passage we would intend to make, but I do want to to have total confidence in both engines.

From SCM to Denia is either a "coast hug", or a straight line, which to my uneducated eye is not dissimilar to Lyme Bay - straight across (shorter) or around the coast (much longer). BCN to SCM is another issue.

When we stayed in a hotel in SCM, the owner had a single engine boat and did "the islands" from SCM, but was anxious about fuel burn and the conditions. As said previously, and I know from our jaunt to the CIs a few years ago, "return trip anxiety" is a real issue, especially if you have flights / car hire etc to consider.

Its great to hear that you are looking towards the Med, and you have been given some good advice, but if you are planning on an August jaunt, aircon / battery condition - and a whole host of other issues raise their ugly head - especially if overnighting at anchor.

So, without wishing to appear blunt, it would be good to know what your intentions are - a UK boat with an occasional Med jaunt, or a pure Med based boat. The former opens up tow car questions, the latter another set of options re purchase location, marina choice, transport options, "comfort issues" and potential battery management.

FWIW, I believe that the berthing costs for a sub 30 foot boat will be considerably less on mainland Spain than the UK... and much less than a berth in the Balearics.

Happy to help with any decisions re location you may require as we have recent experience of UK and Med boating and please do keep asking questions as I am sure this forum is the right place to help you spend your hard earned money correctly :cool::cool::cool:
 
Yes thousands of petrol boats about the the fuel tanks are vented overboard.
fuels cans generally expand as the fuel warms up, Vapour has to go somewhere hence my comment about lockers vented overboard.
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Andy Bav said:
I am slightly confused as to what you intend to do. Visit Spain occasionally or keep it there permanently - and if so, where. Denia to IBZ is, so I am told, an easy passage because

a. Its the shortest route from the mainland to "the islands
b. A lot of vessels do it - so, god forbid, if you get into trouble, plenty of [potential] help
c. You never lose sight of land

However, if you are time limited, BCN to Denia is by far your longest passage - albeit coast hugging. We have a twin engine set up and Sant Carles to the islands its a passage we would intend to make, but I do want to to have total confidence in both engines.

From SCM to Denia is either a "coast hug", or a straight line, which to my uneducated eye is not dissimilar to Lyme Bay - straight across (shorter) or around the coast (much longer). BCN to SCM is another issue.

When we stayed in a hotel in SCM, the owner had a single engine boat and did "the islands" from SCM, but was anxious about fuel burn and the conditions. As said previously, and I know from our jaunt to the CIs a few years ago, "return trip anxiety" is a real issue, especially if you have flights / car hire etc to consider.

Its great to hear that you are looking towards the Med, and you have been given some good advice, but if you are planning on an August jaunt, aircon / battery condition - and a whole host of other issues raise their ugly head - especially if overnighting at anchor.

So, without wishing to appear blunt, it would be good to know what your intentions are - a UK boat with an occasional Med jaunt, or a pure Med based boat. The former opens up tow car questions, the latter another set of options re purchase location, marina choice, transport options, "comfort issues" and potential battery management.

FWIW, I believe that the berthing costs for a sub 30 foot boat will be considerably less on mainland Spain than the UK... and much less than a berth in the Balearics.

Happy to help with any decisions re location you may require as we have recent experience of UK and Med boating and please do keep asking questions as I am sure this forum is the right place to help you spend your hard earned money correctly :cool::cool::cool:
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Great stuff
Yes the plan was to tow to BCN and back at the start and end of summer, and moor her between BCN and Sitges
Clearly if we go for a smaller boat like a fletcher 19, we could leave her on a trailer in a shed somewhere near BCN
Or could trailer to Denia before the crossing
Otherwise yes, would look to spend a couple of days getting to Denia on the boat before the crossing
As we mull it, it is looking more and more like 'we need a bigger boat'
Probably push the 25' 3.5t self tow limit
 
IMHO a bigger boat may not be the answer. The right boat in the right location is.


There are plenty of threads regarding SCM v SOF v Balearics on here, and with flights still cheap and car hire even cheaper ( we are paying €8.75 for 11 days) a well timed fact finding trip isn't going to break the bank.

Each to their own, but for us SCM ticks all the boxes for now but you may want to enjoy time in the UK first and then transpose that to the med in due course.

Boating is all about compromises and it looks like you have plenty of variables at present so difficult to advise.

If you do decide on a fact finding trip I am sure plenty of forumites, including myself, would be happy to help /advise / show if trips coincide.

Personally speaking a bowrider in Torquay was all we wanted in 2011, but a lot has changed since then :cool:

It's quite an interesting project to consider but I would counsel a lot of homework / legwork before parting with any cash.... And in any event looking around is a holiday in itself. Take your time and be prepared to change whatever boat you decide on in a short period of time....
 
Indeed. Have my own excess insurance - £40 for the year. Renters hate it, and they block €900 from credit card, but generally accepted as good cover. €8.75 was a full - full price. Full empty wad €1.15 for 11 days. Really don't know how they do it, but Malaga last year was €4.75 for 8 days......all at low season of course
 
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