BartW
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PS: no prize for guessing what fine boat is the one on stbd side of the C70s!
just a wild guess ;-)
is it a Cantiere Navale Azzurro 16 ?
Is my chain too thin?
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just a wild guess ;-)
is it a Cantiere Navale Azzurro 16 ?
MapisM
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Ok, that was easy. Any ideas about the grey hull in the background instead, before PYB spots her...? 
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Deleted User YDKXO
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To be honest after that night in Caletta I lost faith in the Delta. The first 2 drags on the Costa Smerelda were in very popular anchorages and I put it down to the fact that the seabed was very churned up due to the large number of boats that had used the anchorage over the years but you couldnt use that excuse about Caletta. Here's hoping your Delta performs better than mine
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Ok, that was easy. Any ideas about the grey hull in the background instead, before PYB spots her...?
Gianetti Navetta 19
Hurricane
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I didn't realise that you had problems in Caletta as well.
We shouldn't have - all sand.
I remember trying to anchor next to MapisM - I tried 6 or 8 times to get it to set.
When we finally did set it, we were too close to MapisM - he decided that it would be easier for him to move - which he did in less than 5 mins and without any hassle.
Anyway, it is a really nice anchorage.
MapisM sent me this photo a few months later - apparently the beach bar were using this photo on their Facebook page.
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Deleted User YDKXO
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And I didnt realise you had problems either! Yes we had problems setting the anchor but I thought I had managed to set it and we then turned in for the night. I always leave the Track mode on my plotter switched on when at anchor as a quick way of checking if the boat has moved. Normally in the morning I see a circle shaped track as the boat has rotated about the anchor overnight as the wind veers but the following morning I saw a circle but also a jagged line indicating that the anchor had dragged I guess around 50-70m. Luckily the wind was from the SE and we had dragged towards the sea rather than the beach and we were the only boat in the anchorage so we hadnt clouted another boat. What spooked me about this experience and a previous dragging experience with this Delta anchor was that the anchor had initially appeared to set but then dragged some hours later. As I said the experience in Caletta was the last straw for me and the Delta was history. Actually it still sits in my lazarette as a spare in case I ever lose the Rocna
petem
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Mike, have you tried using an anchor alarm on your phone?
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Yup after that experience in Caletta I downloaded this iPhone Anchor Alarm app https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/anchor-alarm-for-boaters/id743610888?mt=8 and it works well although in areas where the mobile phone signal is poor it sometimes gives false alarms (loud enough to wake the dead and certainly loud enough to wake me!). The other problem is that if your phone goes into sleep mode, the app switches itself off so your phone needs to be connected to a 12V or 220V charging supply overnight. Thanks to advice from Hurricane, I fitted a 12V USB charging port next to our bed and this solved the problem
MapisM
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Tbh, my feeling back then was that your anchor dragged also because you insisted a tad more than necessary with the engines in reverse, while letting the chain down.
And with JW - as well as with most P boats - just engaging the gear produces a pretty high force, well above the forces what could be created by any wind (gale force aside, maybe).
Just think of it this way: how strong should a headwind be, to keep your boat from moving forward with both engines engaged...?
I don't think two digits would be enough to measure the knots of such hypothetical wind speed!
Then again, if Deleted User dragged during the night in the same place, obviously that had nothing to see with the engines pull while reversing. And at 60Kg, surely his Delta surely wasn't undersized.
So, maybe it's indeed an anchor shape that doesn't hold well in a seabed with fine sand...
I should have quite a few opportunities to test that this summer along the Croatian coast, so I'll report about the experience in due course.
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Actually I'm very careful about using the engines to go back on the anchor. Normally I only use one engine in reverse and then in and out with the throttle just to take up the slack in the chain and then try to pull it gently backwards until the SWMBO reports that it feels like the anchor has set. You do have to be very careful with the Rocna because that seems to set much quicker and harder than the Delta and I think it would be very easy to damage the winch or the bow roller by going back on both engines to set it
I dont think there's much if any fine sand in Croatia. IIRC its mostly mud, stones or rocks! Also the accepted anchoring procedure of taking lines ashore means there's probably less load on the anchor in most situations.
MapisM
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Yup, my previous comment was addressed to Hurric, in that specific occasion.
And it was just my impression anyway, it wouldn't be the first time if I were wrong…
