IPS 600 5 yr service cost?

jrudge said:
Interesting thank you.
I have never been on a boat with it let alone driven them but I assumed all low speed manoeuvring was done using the joy stick. They seem to do this on the magazine reviews.

I didn’t expect wheel and throttle !

the other interesting point is the time for the pods to move which I could appreciate may cause issues and for people to become more ham fisted trying to make it do something that would then kick in with quite a surprise.
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Exactly. The joystick can be a mask for poor boat handling skills, just as thrusters can but more so. In calm waters you can park it like it’s a PlayStation game. And when that’s all you can do it will bite you in the bum when that wind and or tide gets up. Or you have a malfunction.
Used as icing on the cake they are great tools.
 
We have ips on our Sessa, it does make mooring a lot easier however we still do it with steer the gear as well , with the tight moorings in the Med it definitely makes stern to mooring less of an issue.
 
jrudge said:
Porto

do you really want a boat to sink with the wife and kids aboard in the middle of a crossing from Mallorca to Sardiana for the sake of an insurance claim !

further there would probably have been one usable drive left post impact to get you home.

it is not all about money
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We talking about a @ rapid incursion “ of the - ok single pod rip off if did not clean snap and some how self seal ?
In my view the easiest fix for for an owner , an owner like me with a life R and Two ERIRBs .... what’s the hells wrong with a jolly in helicopter in the Med in summer . ?
By the times the things landed the claims cheque is in the post
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Money never entered into anything...... just rapidity if getting back on the water . As opposed to 12/12 insurance wrangling.
 
Portofino said:
We talking about a @ rapid incursion “ of the - ok single pod rip off if did not clean snap and some how self seal ?
In my view the easiest fix for for an owner , an owner like me with a life R and Two ERIRBs .... what’s the hells wrong with a jolly in helicopter in the Med in summer . ?
By the times the things landed the claims cheque is in the post
:)
Money never entered into anything...... just rapidity if getting back on the water . As opposed to 12/12 insurance wrangling.
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Looking at Scuttlebutt, there are many cases of Liferafts not inflating. And even if it does then you've still got to get in the thing safely.
 
petem said:
Looking at Scuttlebutt, there are many cases of Liferafts not inflating. And even if it does then you've still got to get in the thing safely.
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From the tender ready to deploy on the bathing platform.... you mean ? ?
My point is the hassle and aftermath of a semi floods boat . 5 mins after re handover when the ins Co reckon it’s fixed the electrotwackery ( tons of it with IPS ) throws a wobbly.
 
The pods are designed to snap off and keep water out and if they don't snap off the impact is not powerful enough but they should still keep the water out of the boat. I think there were some earlier boat models with weak grp around the pods which opened the hull and the boat sank very fast.

As I mentioned I was at the VP test center the other day and they showed me how they did the tests and making sure they get the forces right including recommended hull design/rigidity to keep the hull intact if this happens.

Either way I am not sure its better or worse than shafts, seem to remember pictures on the web showing everything from large openings to smaller ones depending on the impact and boat.
 
I always use the joystick in port and when anchoring. It is there so why not. i also activate DPS so can walk around the boat and it doesn’t move. Both joystick and DPS useful tools for me but not essential. But like a sat nav. Before they were around I could get to my destination without one, just easier with sat nav.

as mentioned costs are fine and I would have ips again. But could also go without ips.
 
Elessar said:
A friend of mine recently bought an IPS boat. I did the sea trial and am now helping him learn the ropes - it’s his first boat.

Despite having driven far more boats than most people, I’ve no IPS experience to speak of before this.

I have to say I am rather impressed.

It’s a beamy 44 ish flybridge and underway at speed the handling is sharp like a sport boat. It’s fun to drive, something I left behind when I went to shafts.

Displacement speed handling is all about the wheel. The pilot will steer it accurately at tick over.

Manoeuvring needs to be done like a stern drive. All about the wheel, one engine at a time, steer before gear. On shaft boats I very rarely touch the wheel on IPS I never stop.

I don’t think much of the joystick as clever as it is. But if you use it as you would a bowthruster, ie do it all on the wheel and gears, click the Joystick on, pull the bow in (or whatever) and then back on the throttles and it’s a useful tool. As soon as you touch the throttles the joystick turns off so it is easy to use it like this.

The problem with the joystick when overused is twofold.
If you don’t appreciate what you are asking the joystick to do, you can be on the edge of the envelope of the possible. It also means there can be a lot of noise and strain of the gear if you ask for something difficult.
When you turn the joystick on, the pods may be in the right place to do as you asked, or they may have to move a long way. There is no way of knowing. And thus the delay between command and reaction varies which can be nerve racking if it’s windy and you’re relying on it.

All in all though, as a user experience, I am really impressed.
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I’ve never been on a pod drive boat but all the reviews say the same thing that handling is not sporty and in fact the turning circle is constrained by software at speed. Did you find that?
 
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