Interesting alleged incident

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Did an afternoon trip on SB Victor this afternoon, and getting back close to the lock a large mono was refused entry into the lock on the basis of a reported speeding incident including wash impacting the Harbour Ferry... the mobo eventually locked in with Victor...

PS a thoroughly good afternoon well worth the £35 adult charge
 
Did an afternoon trip on SB Victor this afternoon, and getting back close to the lock a large mono was refused entry into the lock on the basis of a reported speeding incident including wash impacting the Harbour Ferry... the mobo eventually locked in with Victor...

PS a thoroughly good afternoon well worth the £35 adult charge

Which lock and harbour ferry was this?
 
Ive been waiting to lock into Ipswich and heard the same thing. The Harbour master warn some boat coming up the river to not waste his time as he is not getting locked in due to the speed he is doing. And he is to turn around
 
Happened last year too with two big mobos racing up the Orwell. Apparently they weren't allowed in and were really peed off because they had reservations at the Loch Fyne Oyster place.
Mind you, if I see Victor coming I get out of the way!
 
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Is there any other monitoring of the Orwell? Crossed my mind the other day as a sport boat sped past me near SYH

Yes, all boats with AIS transceivers are monitored automatically by the harbour authority, and computer-generated penalty notices are issued for all speeding transgressions. So turn your transceivers off. Please!
 
Top bananas!

The River Orwell is a free river and although many of us dislike speeding boats I believe we have to live with them. They may not like lumbering yachts all over the place. I believe the Lockmaster/Harbour Master maybe acting beyond his powers if he refuses entry to a leisure vessel. ABP have the facility to make bylaws but those laws must not be different to Common Law. Anyone refused entry should sue the person responsible I believe but that is just my opinion and I am not a lawyer.
 
The River Orwell is a free river and although many of us dislike speeding boats I believe we have to live with them. They may not like lumbering yachts all over the place. I believe the Lockmaster/Harbour Master maybe acting beyond his powers if he refuses entry to a leisure vessel. ABP have the facility to make bylaws but those laws must not be different to Common Law. Anyone refused entry should sue the person responsible I believe but that is just my opinion and I am not a lawyer.

Surely Harbour ByLaws are legally enforceable? The 6kt speed limit is in the bylaws. Ignorance of the law is not I believe a defence.

Presumably as private business Ipswich lock can refuse entry to its site?

I am not a lawyer either! ;-)
 
The River Orwell is a free river and although many of us dislike speeding boats I believe we have to live with them. They may not like lumbering yachts all over the place. I believe the Lockmaster/Harbour Master maybe acting beyond his powers if he refuses entry to a leisure vessel. ABP have the facility to make bylaws but those laws must not be different to Common Law. Anyone refused entry should sue the person responsible I believe but that is just my opinion and I am not a lawyer.

I'll have to respectably disagree with the advice to sue the person responsible!

If you go hacking all the way up the Orwell at 20 knots with little regard for other river users, to be refused entry to the lock seems perfectly reasonable, regardless of the legality.

If a mobo skipper aggrieved by this, then decides to sue because he's missed his dinner booking.....I'm struggling to find some sympathy if I'm honest!
 
The River Orwell is a free river and although many of us dislike speeding boats I believe we have to live with them. They may not like lumbering yachts all over the place. I believe the Lockmaster/Harbour Master maybe acting beyond his powers if he refuses entry to a leisure vessel. ABP have the facility to make bylaws but those laws must not be different to Common Law. Anyone refused entry should sue the person responsible I believe but that is just my opinion and I am not a lawyer.
There is a speed limit on the river, folk use dinghies & swim too, the limit is there for a reason & the river is controlled by Ipswich Port Control
 
The River Orwell is a free river and although many of us dislike speeding boats I believe we have to live with them. They may not like lumbering yachts all over the place. I believe the Lockmaster/Harbour Master maybe acting beyond his powers if he refuses entry to a leisure vessel.

Whose lock is it? Does a right of navigation exist through it?
 
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