Inner Fore Stay on Bene 373

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Hi All,
I purchased in France a few years ago and the boat came with a brand new storm sail ( Hank on type.) They Guy looking after the boat maintenance in Dauville was ex Beneteau and seemed to know his benes. When I asked him how to fly the Storm Jib he told me that Id have to fit a new inner forestay. (There is a very short inner stay as part of the current rig but he told me that this should not be used and anyway it is too short for sail.
As we were having the mast down to replace shrouds he suggested fitting an Eye to the mast that could be used later to fit an inner forestay without taking the mast down again.
About a foot down from the top of the mast there is a sort of window in the casting. He told me that this is for adding an eye or tang to connect the forstay to. The fitting he put on was formend by two independant, right angled plates, these were fitted in to the window and them secured with three rivets on either side. It looked the job.
On the trip home we broke a jIB Halyard coming into Weymouth. Someone suggeted that it was the new fitting that had snagged the halyard. I wasnt sure but I had the Fitting removed just in case. as we were heading fo Kinsale the next day. Afterwards we had another halyear wrap and I eventually cured the problem with a new upper swivel on the Jib. This was the real issue.

I'm now thinking of putting the fitting back on and securing a forestay to it.
Im just wondering if anyone has experience of a similar modification:
My questions are:

Is the location , approximately a foot below the jib attachment a good location for an inner forestay?
Has anyone come across this type of plate made up of two halves, slotted into the window and riveted. Is it strong enough for a forestay?
Does an Inner forestay have to be paralled to existing forestay.
Doest it make sense to have a storm sail on a Bene 373? Will it be an advantage in a blow. I', thinking about ability to hove too or sail on and considering hull shape and wide beam?
Are there any rules of thumb about positioning the forestay? how far back from the existing forestay? Paralled with the existing ot not?
What sheeting set up to use?

I think I have attached a diagram of my rig. It has double backstays. Roller reef main.

Interested to hear from anyone who has worked through a similar projest or has info?

Regards, Kinsale 373
 
The fitting is probably from Wichard, have the same on my Beneteau First 38. Recommend by my rigger.
The location sounds sensible, by attaching so close to the head stay it should work without additional support.
We have a Solent jib using the same fitting, set flying on a furler.
Tack is located so luff I parallel to head stay.
 
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Is the location , approximately a foot below the jib attachment a good location for an inner forestay?
Has anyone come across this type of plate made up of two halves, slotted into the window and riveted. Is it strong enough for a forestay?
Does an Inner forestay have to be paralled to existing forestay.

Only a foot below the top sounds unnecessarily high to my ears. When I installed mine I asked at sparsmaker Seldén and the advice was to put the fitting somewhere between 3 and 6 percent of mast length over deck, measured from the top. This to avoid the need for dedicated back stay support.
Mine is not exactly parallel to the fore stay, distance at the top is 15-20 cm and at deck level circa 40.
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I just looked at Wichard Fitting on line, Yep that looks very much like what was used. So you used this fitting to add a forestay and have the option of a smaller jib. Is this 2nd jib for down wind sailing? Sounds like it would work fine for a storm jib. I don't understand the "curler" could you explain?.
Thanks for your response knuterikt
 
Hello Baba Yaga,
Great photo, thanks. My estimation of a" foot below the " is probably poor. Actually the Fitting on my mast relative to the Swivel looks similar to yours and that gives me a bit of confidence that mine will work.
But, Do I have a Halyard in the right position? Ill have to check.

Thanks for you input, Kinsale 373
 
I just looked at Wichard Fitting on line, Yep that looks very much like what was used. So you used this fitting to add a forestay and have the option of a smaller jib. Is this 2nd jib for down wind sailing? Sounds like it would work fine for a storm jib. I don't understand the "curler" could you explain?.
Thanks for your response knuterikt
should be furler
I don’t have a stay for this sail, it’s with a torsion stiff luff and a code 0 furler.
its for a heavy weather jib, can also hoist a the code 0 there but only done that for tests.
 
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