In the news today...
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Sneds
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Blimey! They are welcome to follow us in a a few weeks when we go from Bristol, we usually go past Cardiff on the way!
Anyone know if it was a mobo or sailing boat?
What on earth were they doing to alert the barrage control staff to such an extent?
Anyone know if it was a mobo or sailing boat?
What on earth were they doing to alert the barrage control staff to such an extent?
Mymobo
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I can not believe it. Who ever they are they should not use the boat until they get some serious training.
trapezeartist
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Oh dear. It's idiots like this that encourage the idea of enforced licensing, regulation and training. As Sneds says, they must have looked frighteningly incompetent for Cardiff barrage to get themselves involved. Trouble is possession of an ICC would probably give them the confidence to be even more dangerous. 
Allan
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I can't believe I am saying this but it seems to me that going aground was the best thing that could have happened to them! At least they didn't get as far as the Nash. I have seen people do all sorts of things in the barrage and never heard barrage control call the coastguard. (Luckily, my biggest cock-up was in Swansea lock!). I hope they get it together and learn that, if respected, the sea can be a great place to be.
Allan
Allan
lancelot
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In the News Today
It is unbelievable how many times this happens. Those who use the sea have great respect for it, unfortunately those who look on and take to the sea with no experience or training risk their lives and those who go out to help.
About a month ago a boat owner lent his mobo to his mates who obviously did not know their bow from stern - caused mayhem in the lock and needed assistance to dock before causing damage to neighbouring boats. I wonder how long it will be before a compulsory test is required - perhaps a good thing?
Fair winds,
Lancelot
It is unbelievable how many times this happens. Those who use the sea have great respect for it, unfortunately those who look on and take to the sea with no experience or training risk their lives and those who go out to help.
About a month ago a boat owner lent his mobo to his mates who obviously did not know their bow from stern - caused mayhem in the lock and needed assistance to dock before causing damage to neighbouring boats. I wonder how long it will be before a compulsory test is required - perhaps a good thing?
Fair winds,
Lancelot
Sneds
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The problem with a "test" is that, like the ICC, people will see it as a licence to drive.
Maybe thats not such a bad thing but a test should be a lot harder to pass than the ICC imho
Maybe thats not such a bad thing but a test should be a lot harder to pass than the ICC imho
trapezeartist
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Therein lies the problem: the ICC is a very low standard. However it is perfectly adequate for certain circumstances so it would be unfair to many boaters if licencing demanded a higher standard. On the other hand, in some other situations nothing less than Yachtmaster Ocean will do.
Every boater needs to understand what his particular needs are, and then get the training and build up the experience to that level. There will be a few fools who think they can do it without training or experience, but some of those woould just ignore the rules anyway. Having a few idiots floating around is the price we have to pay for freedom. Better that than letting the bureaucrats get their hooks in to us.
stownsend
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I think it would be very difficult to police, random checks, and what would happen if you didn't have the min qualification, maybe lots of boats up for sale on the police auctions !
Lady Me is the first cabin cruiser I've helmed, and shes not easy, I mainly helmed ribs and got my tickets (level 3 power) on dorys and ribs, prior to that it was sailing boats and had the tickets for that etc... but I've always said with Lady Me the first 6 months / year will most likely be in the bay until I'm happy and comfortable with her then will venture through the locks out with other boats and again untill I find my feet.
Some of my family thought it was me, that feels me with confidence from them, as I say, some have been removed from the boat guest list ;-)
Cheers
Stu
Lady Me is the first cabin cruiser I've helmed, and shes not easy, I mainly helmed ribs and got my tickets (level 3 power) on dorys and ribs, prior to that it was sailing boats and had the tickets for that etc... but I've always said with Lady Me the first 6 months / year will most likely be in the bay until I'm happy and comfortable with her then will venture through the locks out with other boats and again untill I find my feet.
Some of my family thought it was me, that feels me with confidence from them, as I say, some have been removed from the boat guest list ;-)
Cheers
Stu
AllanJ
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Care
There have been posts before about compulsory licensing.
In this example, there is a degree of negligence, coupled with astounding arrogance, that is startling.
However, to look at a few incidents involving untrained people and draw conclusions without considering how many are incident-free compared to 'trained' people is an unreliable approach.
There have been posts before about compulsory licensing.
In this example, there is a degree of negligence, coupled with astounding arrogance, that is startling.
However, to look at a few incidents involving untrained people and draw conclusions without considering how many are incident-free compared to 'trained' people is an unreliable approach.
Sneds
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For the record, I was not suggesting that we had compulsory training, just that if we did it maybe ought to be tougher than the ICC.
Saying that, I passed a car driving test and then "learnt to drive" ie gained experience of real life situations in the car.
That was a while ago mind!
Saying that, I passed a car driving test and then "learnt to drive" ie gained experience of real life situations in the car.
That was a while ago mind!