In or out...

What is surprising is the differences in perception such proud moments can elicit from observers: at my old UK marina berth, if the wind was from the South, which was the way I needed to go, I would have to put a warp ashore so as to 'persuade' the stern of my boat to go North - the berth pointing west as it were. Anyway, this manoeuvre always gave me that tweak of satisfaction, and a couple of other skippers gave a nod of approval - but one skipper nearby called out derogatory things about learning to control my boat 'properly'! I might add, he did not have a long-keeler, but a Sigma 36, which went backwards whichever way he wanted to go!! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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Nobody has yet mentioned the 'Get Out of Jail' card, gradually infiltrating the sailing fraternity, a Bowthruster."

The other question to ask here is whatever happened to the practice of using a spring to get out of tight berths, turn, etc? I still do this when occasion arises but rarely see others doing it.

We keep Kilter on a swinging mooring...if we miss the pickup 1st time we go round and pretend we are just practicing!
 
Generally Mobo\'s ...

They have more windage and slip sideways at low speed than a raggie ....

Take a mobo at anchor .... we are talking the more modern bayliner / sunseeker style .... watch them at anchor ... they skid about and are not so stable as a raggie with its keel down ... similar to a lift keel shallow hulled raggie in fact .... Watch a Limbo at a mooring and a keeler next to it !!

They all have their good and bad points.
 
Catmandoo ....

Ooooooooooooooooh ..... Can I have your Autograph ??

You're my hero !!

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(Joking ... so don't shoot me !!!!)
 
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Oh absolutely. Last weekend we decided to moor overnight on the Orwell opposite Levington. Wind from the west against a returning tide. It was like being in a washing machine..I'm still swaying as I write this. As dawn came at stupid o'clock, I went out to tighten the mooring in the belief it might help. The skipper of the Dufour moored next to us had had the same idea. He was kept entertained during his morning sojourn as I swept relentlessly backwards and forwards past his seemingly motionless boat. Still, as I said to the Admiral, "at least we saved on a marina berth". I think she wanted to hit me but luckily she was having trouble standing up straight.
 
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Some years ago I had to reverse out of a mooring in Mayflower Marina, Plymouth. The tides and currents there are amazing I don't think any two trots have the same conditions. As we slipped, I notice two people on local boats comment too each other and watch. Sure enough I lost control trying to turn slowly in a confined space. The current/tide carried us astern into an empty mooring. I slipped the drive into forward and motored off giving the two amazed locals a cheerful wave.
 
Old gaffer\'s view...

12ft of bowsprit, ten tons of boat and a 15 ponypower engine driving an offset propeller.

Frankly, all marinas are terrifying!

But arriving is worse, as you don't know what to expect, and a harbourmaster unfamiliar with such boats may direct you into a very difficult space.

I tend to use warps quite a bit, and to go much slower than more modern boats which have a far higher power to weight ratio (i.e. - better brakes!)
 
I notice you are a new user. Are you new to sailing? Bowthruster cost me £5200, Big fender say £50. Damage to fendered boat £0. Damage to other boat £XXXX!!. For many situations there are not enough fenders or crew to position them.

I try to berth every time without using the bowthruster but when manoeurvring in marinas if you boat is being severly affected by wind or tide it is a convenient get out of jail card.

I love watching the sailing skills of those that enter and leave under sail alone but think they are potentially taking a liberty in risking damage to other boats. I don't care if they have Insurance or rectify the damage. I don't want my boat damaged in the first place nor losing it while it is being repaired.

I accept that I don't bother with a bowthruster on the Wayfarer so there is an element of horses for courses!
 
No, I only sailed while based in the States but I am now a new UK stinky. Well, my quote of £2100 fitted for a Bowthruster seems to look very competitve against the cost of yours. I think you may have a larger requirement. Anyway, you're on the Solent so everything is more expensive there /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif The Admiral, equiped with a long bit of string attached to a fat fender, has perfected a technique of flinging the thing smartly into danger spots so most departures and arrivals are worry free..
 
Re. Big Balls

These big fenders are marvellous when one is in the poo but where the **** do you keep them during peacetime????????
 
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