In mast furling

That looks like the rig that I have on my Centaur. Now that I'm used to it it is great. It did take a year of playing to get it right but in now comes in and out without problems. Can have problems with the leach flapping if not set up correctly.

Your's looks as though it is incorrectly rigged, as pointed out previously. You need a block on the car on the boom and the outhaul runs through that and then up to the clew and back to the car. When pulling the sail out push the boom up at an angle (about 20 degrees ?) so that the outhaul line is close to horizontal (you get to know the angle). When out pull down on the kicker to return the boom to horizontal. Should be no flapping leach. Putting sail back in is keep the boom horizontal and all goes away quite smoothly (and consistently) but keep a slight tension on the outhaul to get the sail wrapping tightly.

Did get a Selden rod kicker fitted to stop having to play with the topping lift. The wife even paid for that to make life easier. And it works well!

Should you not have the jib sheets a couple of turns round the jib to stop the jib flogging and possibly pulling out?

Enjoy your new comfortable boat.
 
What sort of dosh is it, ball-park, to retro fit a Selden or similar furling mast of approx 40'? Anyone know?

Would obviously need all new standing rigging and I estimate the cost of a new main to be approx £1k.
 
KAL said:
What sort of dosh is it, ball-park, to retro fit a Selden or similar furling mast of approx 40'? Anyone know?

Would obviously need all new standing rigging and I estimate the cost of a new main to be approx £1k.
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New mast, new boom, new sail. Approx £12-15k depending on how fancy your sail and whether you already have winches and clutches for the controls.
 
ostell said:
Your's looks as though it is incorrectly rigged, as pointed out previously. You need a block on the car on the boom and the outhaul runs through that and then up to the clew and back to the car. When pulling the sail out push the boom up at an angle (about 20 degrees ?) so that the outhaul line is close to horizontal (you get to know the angle). When out pull down on the kicker to return the boom to horizontal. Should be no flapping leach. Putting sail back in is keep the boom horizontal and all goes away quite smoothly (and consistently) but keep a slight tension on the outhaul to get the sail wrapping tightly.
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With the Bamar system, there isn't usually a block on the car - the outhaul runs straight to the clew then back to the car. You shouldn't need to change the angle of the boom when unfurling or furling the main.
 
NormanS said:
I dare say that in a few years, most except racers, will have furling mains.
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Personally, I hope not, but perhaps there is room for improvement in single line reefing systems, lazy jacks and fully battened mains. I do enjoy the performance of a full main. We day sail more than voyage and the joy of getting the best of the boat gives a lot more sailing pleasure in our short trips.
 
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dylanwinter said:
stop it....

you have thrown enough money at your boat already

your wife will notice it for sure

you are heading down Roger Bull Territory if you are not careful

http://www.agentlemansyacht.com/
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Dylan, you're right, but it is nice to dream. As for Roger, he cheers me up no end because there is someone who has spent more on a Centaur than I have!
 
The new engine is certainly a plus point, dylan full stop however I don't personally like or trust the in mast furling O2 Be More correct the behind mast furling full stop these devices 10 to work fine when they knew and the sales are new full stop but on the aged plonkers the most of us Own they tend to be unreliable full stop I much prefer a single or double Rover operated reefing system which is much less likely to go wrong windjammer up at a crucial time full stop.
Apologies for the spelling mistakes, I've been using dictation.
 
NormanS said:
Also think that you have to hoist the sail every time, instead of only once a season.:rolleyes:
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:D :encouragement:

Oh dear, such hard graft ... and every time.

That alters everything and completely negates never having a jam and being able to drop the sail whatever happens to the furling mechanism ... and having a proper mainsail with a roach and full-length horizontal battens.

Hoisting every time I go sailing ... Wow! Thanks for pointing it out, I hadn't realised what a drudgery my sailing life is and that I should have bought a new mast for in-mast reefing rather than only a new boom. :ambivalence:
 
Yes, and in addition to the drudgery of having to hoist every time, just consider that although you have roach, which increases the area, the foot of the sail doesn't have a decent shape to give air flow, because it's fastened all the way into the boom. With in-mast it's so easy to tweek the outhaul to get the perfect shape for the conditions.
My commiserations to you.:D
 
Jamming up

should I not like it then I assume I can remove it and go back to slab reefing

however, I also assume that would leave a row of rivet holes up both sides of the mast

will that compromise its structural integrity in any serious way?

D
 
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