Importing a salvage powerboat from the USA

[CtrlAltDelete]

Hello, thanks for letting me join.
I wanted to post this here to see if anyone had any info that might help me.
Im after a salvage 36/38 powerboat hull & deck and trailer from thr USA which I’m budgeting to buy for $5k. Can anyone help me please with what it might cost and any hurdles to get it out of say Florida and back to S’oton to the point I can collect it.

Thanks for any help in advance

Steve

 

[Seastoke]

Well I don’t think the us meets our import criteria , you can’t tow a 36 ft in uk but would make a great project at 5k. So the question is why would not anyone n Florida take it on , the trailer must be worth 5k.

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

No ,it can be 12m with a max overhang from rear of trailer: 3.05m. Providing you’ve got a vehicle that’s over 3500 GVW. But I’ll probably take the baby artic and a 40’ flat. Stops any hassle then

 

[Tranona]

No ,it can be 12m with a max overhang from rear of trailer: 3.05m. Providing you’ve got a vehicle that’s over 3500 GVW. But I’ll probably take the baby artic and a 40’ flat. Stops any hassle then

The answer is absolutely NO. You cannot import any boat that does not meet the current regulatory requirements in the UK.

However just to satisfy curiosity, shipping would cost somewhere between 4 and 5 times your $5k purchase price

 

[st599]

If it cost 5k, then shipping cost 20k, you'd then need to pay VAT on 25k. Then you'd need to prove it met UK Recreational Craft Regulations (which is the same as the EU regulations), which probably would require a replacement engine.

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

If it cost 5k, then shipping cost 20k, you'd then need to pay VAT on 25k. Then you'd need to prove it met UK Recreational Craft Regulations (which is the same as the EU regulations), which probably would require a replacement engine.

If I just import a hull deck and trailer. I think they’ll just have to view it as Home completion SailAway. These aren’t subject to RCR and need. PCA on completion instead. Which is fair.

 

[sarabande]

"just", "they", "will have to"

You have asked a complicated question, and been answered by expert professional opinion.

Yet you respond with blatant wish fulfilment, and with no direct reference to any organisation likely to be authorised to tell you exactly what you can and cannot do, and how much it will cost you.

I have a horrible feeling you are going to be
1 very disappointed
2 lose a lot of money


If you carry on thinking you can bring a wreck across the Atlantic as deck cargo, pay all the fees which are carefully written down ( and which you think the authorities will waive just for one case), and then spend thousands rebuilding to very specific technical standards, and then convince an insurance company to cover a one-off vessel, then you are heading for emotional and financial rocks.

 

[Tranona]

Pretty much sums it up, even if you could convince yourself you could build a functional boat and would avoid the RCR by being home build and keeping it for 5 years after completion.

There is far more space Florida for worthless scrap, so leave it there and let somebody else deal with its disposal.

 

[ylop]

If I just import a hull deck and trailer. I think they’ll just have to view it as Home completion SailAway.

“Home Completion” boats ARE in the scope of RCR, only outside the scope if you build from scratch. The regulations describe them as “Partially completed”.

These aren’t subject to RCR and need. PCA on completion instead. Which is fair.

It either IS within scope of the RCR and needs PCA or it is not and does not need a PCA. Very important to understand which you are.

If the trailer is to be used on U.K. roads it will also need to conform to U.K. standards. Which means various key components need type approval.

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

“Home Completion” boats ARE in the scope of RCR, only outside the scope if you build from scratch. The regulations describe them as “Partially completed”.

It either IS within scope of the RCR and needs PCA or it is not and does not need a PCA. Very important to understand which you are.

If the trailer is to be used on U.K. roads it will also need to conform to U.K. standards. Which means various key components need type approval.

Hello, Yolp.

Yes, if the used boat parts can be imported out outside the scope of the RCR, all well and good.

Cheers

 

[dunedin]

If it cost 5k, then shipping cost 20k, you'd then need to pay VAT on 25k. Then you'd need to prove it met UK Recreational Craft Regulations (which is the same as the EU regulations), which probably would require a replacement engine.

In these uncertain times, there could easily be substantial import dues / tarrifs to be added as well as VAT on a boat imported from the USA. These could change while the boat is in transit, which makes this difficult to plan for.

Overall unless it is a somehow undiscovered Picasso able to be bought for a pittance, this will likely be a very expensive way to create a millstone.

 

[Tranona]

Hello, Yolp.

Yes, if the used boat parts can be imported out outside the scope of the RCR, all well and good.

Cheers

You are trying to convince yourself that this is viable. As suggested it will NOT be a home build but a Home Completion and the hull and deck will require certification from the builder up to the point that you buy it. Many people were caught out with this when buying part complete boats.

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

The answer is absolutely NO. You cannot import any boat that does not meet the current regulatory requirements

You had me there, for a moment.

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

thank to

You are trying to convince yourself that this is viable. As suggested it will NOT be a home build but a Home Completion and the hull and deck will require certification from the builder up to the point that you buy it. Many people were caught out with this when buying part complete boats

Thank you, for your concerns and forewarning and I’m not parting with a penny until it’s viable , end to end. If the parts were racing based , in development or an exhibition. They can come in.

 

[dunedin]

No ,it can be 12m with a max overhang from rear of trailer: 3.05m. Providing you’ve got a vehicle that’s over 3500 GVW. But I’ll probably take the baby artic and a 40’ flat. Stops any hassle then

What is the beam? Most bigger boats tend to fail on the maximum width limits, in terms of self towing.

 

[ylop]

Hello, Yolp.

Yes, if the used boat parts can be imported out outside the scope of the RCR, all well and good.

Cheers

They can’t. Whether anyone spots it or can be bothered to enforce it for a weird one off is a different question. One day you may wish to sell your creation - the buyer or their surveyor is likely to be awake to the issues and at the very least price accordingly. So cheap boat, expensive shipping, import VAT and duty, refit costs, potentially PCA costs (this isn’t like a vehicle with an IVA - you are talking well into four figures if you’ve been very diligent with your record keeping, probably five if not).

If you want to build a boat - why not build a boat.

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

What is the beam? Most bigger boats tend to fail on the maximum width limits, in terms of self towing.

I haven’t bought a boat yet so I don’t know.

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

They can’t. Whether anyone spots it or can be bothered to enforce it for a weird one off is a different question. One day you may wish to sell your creation - the buyer or their surveyor is likely to be awake to the issues and at the very least price accordingly. So cheap boat, expensive shipping, import VAT and duty, refit costs, potentially PCA costs (this isn’t like a vehicle with an IVA - you are talking well into four figures if you’ve been very diligent with your record keeping, probably five if not).

If you want to build a boat - why not build a boat.

They can. Raceboats, historic boats , historic replicas, exhibition boats, boat and boat parts under development can all be bought in. I’ve not said I am building a boat. I’ve just said I want to import these three items. I’m not about to attempt any of it until it’s mapped out end to end.

 

[st599]

What's the definition of a race boat? Are you exhibiting the boat and have a carnet in place? How old is the boat?

There are legitimate use cases that don't need PCA, I doubt a home completion would come anywhere near that.

Post creation of the EC, the potential used boat market shrunk to basically Europe, post Brexit, it shrunk to the UK.

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

What's the definition of a race boat?

RCR says that’s Defined by the manufacturer. I doubt a
“ racing “ sticker would suffice but a signed letter on the headed paper would probably be sufficient.