I'm considering Rival 34 (skeg) or Nicholson 35- 36 (long keel) ?

All the best with your choice of purchase. If you buy the Rival 34 please chain the Rival Facebook page where you can ask questions and will get lots of help and support. If your enquire plans and access to technical articles, then Rival Owners Association can be joined to access these resources. Currently a post in FB on R34 BLUE TALIAMAN in Kea Island GREECE, with some rather stormy looking dark clouds! Good luck. If it is the boat I think, you mean deep keel, all Rivals are fin keels.
 
Piotr said:
Hi V1701
Yes I'm looking for tablet to use Navionics for navigation and this is another question which one will be the best choice?
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Personally, I've got 2 Sony Xperia tablets.
They're as cheap as chips on eBay right now.
And they're water/splashproof.
I keep one by the helm - battery life about 6-7 hours.
When the battery's low, I just plug it in to recharge and fire up the other one.
 
Hi everyone. Thank you very much gays . I very appreciate all your tips. I went to Dublin to see Nicholson 36, beatifull boat but to much to do on her . I mean inside it is very rare. Modern boats look much better and more cosy. Therefor I'm going to buy Rival 34 . The Rival you can see on apollo duck is Long keel version and it is in great condition and windvane fitted.

Hi Gary Fox I was thinking about classic wooden and exactly the same I went to see in Portsmouth. Yacht is still for sale on classic wooden boat website. I love this boats but there is not enough head room and it is small inside. Also needs much more attention and maintenance. I don't really like those modern fin meg type boats. I like heavy long keel boats or long fin and skeg and deep safe cockpit . I am Polish. I am going to sail in Atlantic and Baltic Sea to Gdańsk in Poland. So I'm thinking Rival is a good choice.
I don't really undestand what meant: 'Rivals all have a very bad, low, waterline length '


Hi V1701

Yes I'm looking for tablet to use Navionics for navigation and this is another question: which one is the best choice?
 
rib said:
Why are rivals not good for the med ?
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They are good for the med and there are lots of similar hull shapes in the med and other places.

However, generally speaking, the reason modern boat shapes exist is that they provide larger volume and area for LOA compared to a traditional shaped hull. This means that the more modern hull can be better utilised for marine leisure living: -

1. Wide sterns and good water access bathing platforms.
2. Larger cockpits with bigger tables that can seat people for alfresco dining or chilling out.
3. More room in saloons for lounging without closeness to other crew in hot environments.
4. More heads or cabins for private space.
5. Faster sailing speeds in lighter winds and higher wind speeds.

The corollary from these points, being the opposite for a more traditional hull shape, which can be considered as reasons why a more traditional hull shape is unsuitable in the Med.

That is the gist of the arguments against traditional hull shapes.
 
Piotr said:
Hi everyone. Thank you very much gays . I very appreciate all your tips. I went to Dublin to see Nicholson 36, beatifull boat but to much to do on her . I mean inside it is very rare. Modern boats look much better and more cosy. Therefor I'm going to buy Rival 34 . The Rival you can see on apollo duck is Long keel version and it is in great condition and windvane fitted.

Hi Gary Fox I was thinking about classic wooden and exactly the same I went to see in Portsmouth. Yacht is still for sale on classic wooden boat website. I love this boats but there is not enough head room and it is small inside. Also needs much more attention and maintenance. I don't really like those modern fin meg type boats. I like heavy long keel boats or long fin and skeg and deep safe cockpit . I am Polish. I am going to sail in Atlantic and Baltic Sea to Gdańsk in Poland. So I'm thinking Rival is a good choice.
I don't really undestand what meant: 'Rivals all have a very bad, low, waterline length '


Hi V1701

Yes I'm looking for tablet to use Navionics for navigation and this is another question: which one is the best choice?
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Hi piotr..i sail a rival 41 solo as a liveaboard ihave been in the med 5years now .and not had any problems with her at all even when the temp hits mid 40s c..biggest pain is getting in and out after swimming ,soon sorted with a dingy along side.i spend 90% of my cruising time on anchor and have usually found some where to free anchor even in the smallest bays ..i think ive done line ashore about a dozen times since leaving falmouth..and of course when the wind picks up not many boats look after you better ....enjoy your new boat
 
Kukri said:
No indeed, but it stops the tiller slamming hard over in astern, which is a real problem if you are really going backwards as opposed to just putting the engine astern for a “ kick”.
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I converted my last yact, a homebuit Van der Stadt 34 from wheel to tiller, and I can assure you that in 50K miles of offshore sailing it never once caused an issue in astern. I've also converted my present offshore lifeboat, (A frame with Lanteen rig option), from wheel to tiller.
The autopilot for a tiller costs half the price of a wheel steering one, and you can slam a tiller over far faster than you will ever get full lock on a wheel, and no need for a rudder indicator or dodgy cables that rust or fatigue. Tillers are also lighter and if you do not want to use a Hydrovane self steering, (The very best type of wind vane), iit's much easier to connect control lines from a Navik or Airies to a tiller without slack line issues, or limited angle problems. Nope under 40 ft, if you have a wheel, sell it and buy a nice tiller.

PS: I forgot that if your silly wheel is in the cockpit, it limits the size of the cockpit table and generally gets in the way of a good party!
 
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