Identity cards

Re: Identity theft

Re Fatipa I recently traveled to America fir the first time. I must admit to expecting many Americans to be loud and rude. In fact they were all without exception very polite and friendly. Officials apologised for any delay which for self wife and good looking daughter was minimal.
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Re: Identity theft

I think perhaps you overestimate Mr Blunkett's intelligence.

I seem to remember he was well to the front complaining about a ID card scheme for football fans after the Liverpool supporters killed all those people in Belgium. Breach of civil liberties it was then.

He's come a long way from the days he ran the Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire.

BTW

What happens if you lose your card? Do you ring up and ask for a replacement. Or if I decommision of the beard will I need another card. Perhaps the bobbies will develop a Gatso machine that detects the card and takes your picture if you don't have one. Will there be a penalty points system - sort of 2 points for drunk and dis 5 points for saying nasty things about New Labour. 12 points and they disqualify you for a year.

Its too silly for words

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Re: Identity cards - Who do we say \'No\' to?

HIV status on the ID cards - your sh1tt1ng me surely. why doesn't blunkett just start sewing little yellow stars on people. I though millions of people died in 1945 to get rid of ar''$$**s like him.

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Re: Identity theft

Sitting behind me on a plane from Atlanta to London a few months ago were two gentlement from England who had foolishly remarked that one of the "fat" immigration staff had not been very helpful when they tried to enter the USA earlier in the afternoon. It was at that point that they discovered what the waiver part of the visa waiver form really means. They were locked up until the next flight back to Britain later that night and they will never be able to enter the USA again. They had no right of appeal because they had waived all rights when they signed the waiver form.

A slightly extreme reaction, but perfectly legal and people who are rude to immigration officials probably deserve to be treated to the letter of the law.

I trust that fatipa either never wants to go to the USA or if he does that he uses the same intemperate language on entry so that his stay will be a short one!



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I was not asked, but if I had been asked, I would have said 'yes', but please, put the DNA profile on there too.

The very fact that you post on this board predisposes your biasses. Many of my non-sailing friends say they welcome the idea of a COMPULSORY id card, it is the idea that it is not compulsory which alarms many of them. Only the noble will volunteer if it is voluntary, but then, if I were a cop, I would assume that if you... 'ello, 'ello, do not, sir, - 'ave an ID card, then you are probably a criminal.

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DeeGee, it's a con to pretend it's to do with 'security*'. The Spanish have ID cards, but that didn't prevent the Madrid train bombings. All an identity card does is prove that you are who you said you were when you applied for it. Who you said you were is not neccesarily the same thing as who you are. I have clients in the bankcard fraud prevention business, and although they are keen on biometrics, they're not daft enough to beleive it'll end card fraud. It'll just raise the difficulty level a bit.

*Social security, maybe

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If it eases the issue of identity

Being a traveller - I thank that I have the Estonian one that shows me clearly and I use it as a good ID item. Time saved using it has far outweighed any reservations I had about it when first isseud .....

Whats the big beef about a piece of plastic ...... UK is one of the few palces left that still does not have anything like it ....


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As a British 'SUBJECT' I have plenty of ways of proving my own identification, why should I be forced to buy some more. Yes I know it is voluntry, so far, but we have also heard threats of not being allowed NHS treatments without it, and other public amenities will be stopped until we can produce this new big brother nanny card.

Who is going to control the details held on the database and what will all that data be used for, oh it is ok, its our government, I trust them, just like the ID papers in Europe in the '30's and 40's were not abused by corrupt governments.

Do you really want to live in a police state where the government owns you and 'allows' you privildges like travel and apparent freedom. I wonder when I will start needing to apply for a visa to travel to the boat at weekends, I mean my regular travel must look suspicious, it would all be for my own safety too!

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