Icemaker Spares

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We have a Raritan Model 84 Icemaker.
Big Med disaster last year - it packed up.
Thanks to MYAG, we stripped it down and were able to get it working again.
But now, I'm looking for spares for it and having trouble cross-referencing the parts.

I want to buy the spares that go actually inside the freezer compartment.
I'v got exploded views from the Raritan website.
It seems to me that I need a part number I34220W.
I have found these two UK sites that seem to offer spares
Bainbridge http://www.bainbridgemarine.com/FindItems.aspx?Brand=Raritan
and
Force Chandlery
http://www.forcechandlery.com/search.asp?cid=37825
Both these UK sites use partnumbers starting with Q like this Q016909

Anyway, does anyone know of a good supplier of Raritan Icemaker parts/spares?
 
Hurricane said:
We have a Raritan Model 84 Icemaker.
Big Med disaster last year - it packed up.
Thanks to MYAG, we stripped it down and were able to get it working again.
But now, I'm looking for spares for it and having trouble cross-referencing the parts.

I want to buy the spares that go actually inside the freezer compartment.
I'v got exploded views from the Raritan website.
It seems to me that I need a part number I34220W.
I have found these two UK sites that seem to offer spares
Bainbridge http://www.bainbridgemarine.com/FindItems.aspx?Brand=Raritan
and
Force Chandlery
http://www.forcechandlery.com/search.asp?cid=37825
Both these UK sites use partnumbers starting with Q like this Q016909

Anyway, does anyone know of a good supplier of Raritan Icemaker parts/spares?
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Penguin Marine Refrigeration Ltd. www.penguinfrigo.co.uk

Mike, I'm in the US at FLIBS, half the price here, what do you need?
 
MYAG said:
Penguin Marine Refrigeration Ltd. www.penguinfrigo.co.uk

Mike, I'm in the US at FLIBS, half the price here, what do you need?
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You may remember that, with your help, I stripped down the inside of the icemaker - right up to the thermostat.
I took your suggestion of sealing it using some silicone sealant.
Cleaned and dried the motor out and reassembled.
It is still working but I would like to have spares on board for next season - just in case.
So, either I need the whole internal mechanism or just the motor kit from the front - maybe a spare thermostat.
Maybe you can suggest what would be best spares?

FLIBS - Huh
I bet thats another reason my Novurania has been delayed!!
 
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Hurricane said:
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FLIBS - Huh
I bet thats another reason my Novurania has been delayed!!
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Novurania - nothing to do with me Mike but you will remember I mentioned late delivery to you at the time, having had a lengthy delay myself. IIRC others here also had delays.

If I was to keep any icemaker spares it would be the icemaker module (I34M220) as they are prone to failure. IIRC when your machine stopped working the icemaker module was the culprit. TBH, its not worth messing around changing lots of parts in these machines - I would replace the damn thing as life on board in the Med without ice is simply unmanageable.

However I realise you have a penchant for such thrifty work so you might like to buy the Icemaker Complete Assembly (I34W220) - that will keep you happily occupied for quite a few hours. :)
 
petem said:
If you're at FLIBS, take a pic of the Fairline stand will you.
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No disregard for FL stand, but I for one would rather suggest some pics of a certain beast with no less than four 7s on the transom. :cool:
Hope you're having a great time, MYAG. :encouragement:

PS: with apologies to Hurric for the o/t, but I'm afraid I cant't help with the icemaker anyway...

PPS: Doh! Would you believe that I opened this thread before the FL one, with the latest pics?!? You were reading my mind, MYAG!
 
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MYAG said:
Novurania - nothing to do with me Mike but you will remember I mentioned late delivery to you at the time, having had a lengthy delay myself. IIRC others here also had delays.

If I was to keep any icemaker spares it would be the icemaker module (I34M220) as they are prone to failure. IIRC when your machine stopped working the icemaker module was the culprit. TBH, its not worth messing around changing lots of parts in these machines - I would replace the damn thing as life on board in the Med without ice is simply unmanageable.

However I realise you have a penchant for such thrifty work so you might like to buy the Icemaker Complete Assembly (I34W220) - that will keep you happily occupied for quite a few hours. :)
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Thanks for the advice

You are definitely correct that the Med without an Icemaker would be unmanageable.
Just imagine it - a Gin and Tonic - WITHOUT ICE
 
MYAG said:
Novurania - nothing to do with me Mike but you will remember I mentioned late delivery to you at the time, having had a lengthy delay myself. IIRC others here also had delays.

If I was to keep any icemaker spares it would be the icemaker module (I34M220) as they are prone to failure. IIRC when your machine stopped working the icemaker module was the culprit. TBH, its not worth messing around changing lots of parts in these machines - I would replace the damn thing as life on board in the Med without ice is simply unmanageable.

However I realise you have a penchant for such thrifty work so you might like to buy the Icemaker Complete Assembly (I34W220) - that will keep you happily occupied for quite a few hours. :)
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I've just checked those part numbers - and that has really helped - I missed seeing the middle letter in the part number M and W - it all makes sense now.
I will phone Pengiun and see what they charge.

BTW - just had an email from the Novurania dealer - seems to think that they are still on schedule for despatch this month but (as I thought) they are at the boat show at the moment!!!
 
Hurricane said:
Thanks for the advice

You are definitely correct that the Med without an Icemaker would be unmanageable.
Just imagine it - a Gin and Tonic - WITHOUT ICE
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I'm sure many others braving the UK winter weather are welling up like me imagining a G&T in the med without ice.
 
Just tried phoning Penguin and Force
Completely gormless.
There must be a European supplier of Raritan spares that knows what they are talking about.
Either part number I34M220 ($218.00) for the motor part or part number I34W220 ($274.50) for the complete inside parts.
So it would make sense to get the complete one.
According to MYAG these parts are always failing - someone in Europe must have them.
 
I've got spare motor vfr115116 from Penguin via website and found penguin very helpful. you must have been unlucky to get gormlessness. This motor fits u-line/Raritan and others that make D shaped solid icecubes (because they all use the same icemaker unit)
 
jfm said:
I've got spare motor vfr115116 from Penguin via website and found penguin very helpful. you must have been unlucky to get gormlessness. This motor fits u-line/Raritan and others that make D shaped solid icecubes (because they all use the same icemaker unit)
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Brilliant, JFM
That seems to be the part.
I'll give them another call - the girl in the office said that she had only just started.
 
Must admit, I can't see the whole icemaker assembly on their site. Another source is here http://www.bainbridgemarine.com/FindItems.aspx?Brand=U-Line and the entire unit is last item on page. Much more expensive than just the motor, which is what fails

Note the motor can fail due to heater failure. The thing makes ice in the D moulds, then it heats the moulds to release the ice. Then the motor flicks the ice cubes out. If the heater fails, the motor stalls and burns out. Worth changing the heater if you find the motor is dead. If you just change the motor you might burn that one out too. Other potential culprit is the little PCB that controls all of these steps

(For my back up system I bought 1 x spare motor and 1x whole spare icemaker kept in garage. I swap it out when it fails then fix the failed one at leisure, ready for next swap out. I've never needed a whole icemaker unit yet. Also the icemaker in my Samsung fridge at home is the same unit so I can cannibalise that if needed - the boat always comes first of course so the kitchen can be cannibalised:encouragement:)
 
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jfm said:
Must admit, I can't see the whole icemaker assembly on their site. Another source is here http://www.bainbridgemarine.com/FindItems.aspx?Brand=U-Line and the entire unit is last item on page. Much more expensive than just the motor, which is what fails

Note the motor can fail due to heater failure. The thing makes ice in the D moulds, then it heats the moulds to release the ice. Then the motor flicks the ice cubes out. If the heater fails, the motor stalls and burns out. Worth changing the heater if you find the motor is dead. If you just change the motor you might burn that one out too. Other potential culprit is the little PCB that controls all of these steps

(For my back up system I bought 1 x spare motor and 1x whole spare icemaker kept in garage. I swap it out when it fails then fix the failed one at leisure, ready for next swap out. I've never needed a whole icemaker unit yet. Also the icemaker in my Samsung fridge at home is the same unit so I can cannibalise that if needed - the boat always comes first of course so the kitchen can be cannibalised:encouragement:)
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Ours failed last summer in a different way.
It turned out to be the motor had got wet.
The Ice Makers are supplied with a two pin plug so there is no way of knowing which is the live and which is the neutral.
Our symptom was the shoreside RCD popped.
It took me a long time to realise that the "live" side of the Ice Maker was connected to the boat's Neutral.
After completely removing the Ice Maker, I had just worked that out and was in the process of tracking the actual fault when MYAG called.
He seems to know his stuff with these things.
Interestingly, (and I wouldn't have seen this) he pointed out that the small thermostat has a washer that keeps water out of the motor.
He said it happens all the time - the washer deteriorates and water then leaks into the motor.
This was exactly our problem.
We were lucky - the RCD had detected an electric leak and shut everything off before ?uggering the motor itself.
MYAG was pretty sure that we wouldn't get it going but after drying the motor and cleaning everything, we resealed the thermostat using a silicone sealant.
He also explained a technique for testing the thermostat - put it in the freezer for a hour or so - then using a multimeter check the operation as it warms up.
As I say, we were lucky and nothing was damaged.
Actually SWMBO is good at this kind of thing and since new, she has always dried the Ice Maker carefully after use and we always leave the door open when not in use.

But as I said earlier - No ice on board - completely unthinkable.

I see your point about the heater - I might get one of those as well - do you know of any good sources/prices and part numbers?
 
Ah right. I'll look out for the washer problem next time
Hurricane said:
...heater - I might get one of those as well - do you know of any good sources/prices and part numbers?
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Yep, Bainbridge link above, they do all spares incl the heater (at a price), pcb, motor, door gaskets, doors, icebox, etc
 
Just been reading your thread and as a refrigeration engineer I thought I'd let you guys know the ice mould assembly in question is a standard mould assembly found in most if not all American side by side fridge freezers, Magtag, Westinghouse, subzero etc
untill a few years ago we would test, strip down and replace faulty components but now we just replace the whole assembly from memory the cost is approx £350.00 + Vat
I think I still have a few components in the workshop, what part do you require I'm assuming it's a 110v model ?
 
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