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Jeremy from Devon.

Single father three sons, looking for a boat.

My father died three weeks ago and as a single dad (two disabled sons NOT in wheelchairs (learning difficulties)) I am wanting to buy a boat.

We had one many years ago so not totally new but not stupid either, will take relevant training courses.

My problem is I need unbias advice please from people her and all advice will be much appreciated.

Looking to spend about £30,000, left to me, plus additional money on all safety equipment and training. Up to this months I was getting by on DLA for my sons and my Carers Allowance.

Main want is.

Sea going
Cabin cruiser
Sleeping
Nice seating area
About 26'

That is it really

Is this possible, pre owned.

Looking to keep it moored at say Plymouth or Torquay

Would finally love to go round short trips Torquay-Plymouth-Bude etc

Thank you

Something like this if the link works.

Sorry also, please what do I especially need to look for in pre owned, service history yes, damage yes, get a survey!, buy from a reputable dealer

http://www.trade-it.co.uk/Endeca/Ad...ttp://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/BRM313
 
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Hi and welcome to the forum. Lots of great advice to be had. Not really best placed to do that myself at the moment but hoping to bump this up for you for those that can!

Best of luck.
 
Sorry to hear of your recent loss. What a wonderful way to remember him, having a boat.

Lots of choices around on the usual websites, including BoatsandOutboards, and ApolloDuck. It would help if you think about how long you are likely to want to keep the boat, whether you will want extra safety features for the boys, what sort of mooring (marina, drystack, trot) etc.

You mention Bude. Does that mean you would expect to round the Lizard, or trail her ?


How good are you at DIY and mending things ? Buying a boat with a repairable list of minor defects would give you much more choice than looking for one that is ready to run and immaculate.
 
Hi Jeremy, welcome to the forum. Firstly, sorry to hear about your dad. Can I ask if the £30k will also cover annual berthing fees, maintenance and insurance? You'll get more boat than the one listed in your link for £24k btw
 
I will let others more familiar with various models in this size range comment but your budget looks reasonable. Take your time over the winter months to go and look at as many models as possible to see what you like and build up your knowledge, if you have any boating friends ask them to come along with you. Also get out in a few of the boats with the sons to see what you all like, think about whether you will want to do a bit of fishing/watersports etc Will you be wanting to overnight onboard? Where do you want to keep it, dont forget to factor in those costs and all other running costs.

Most of all though, enjoy this part, go and have a look around you and try out as many different types as you can.
 
It is important that you collect enough info to be able to assess the value of different designs and types. Then decide on your prioritized requirements, at least divided into nice/need to have.

Your budget should consider both investment and operating costs. Fuel cost is always important but for all the time you spend onboard in the marina, it will be zero.
With a known budget you can exclude offers out of scope and concentrate on viewing relevant boats. If you get a chance also look at types or designs you at first did not find interesting - you might learn a thing or two :)
 
jeremyrundle said:
Jeremy from Devon.

Single father three sons, looking for a boat.

My father died three weeks ago and as a single dad (two disabled sons NOT in wheelchairs (learning difficulties)) I am wanting to buy a boat.

We had one many years ago so not totally new but not stupid either, will take relevant training courses.

My problem is I need unbias advice please from people her and all advice will be much appreciated.

Looking to spend about £30,000, left to me, plus additional money on all safety equipment and training. Up to this months I was getting by on DLA for my sons and my Carers Allowance.

Main want is.

Sea going
Cabin cruiser
Sleeping
Nice seating area
About 26'

That is it really

Is this possible, pre owned.

Looking to keep it moored at say Plymouth or Torquay

Would finally love to go round short trips Torquay-Plymouth-Bude etc

Thank you

Something like this if the link works.

Sorry also, please what do I especially need to look for in pre owned, service history yes, damage yes, get a survey!, buy from a reputable dealer

http://www.trade-it.co.uk/Endeca/Ad...ttp://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/BRM313
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jeremy
private message sent.. you should see it as a notification up top right of your sceen as a minimum!
 
Jeremy, a very warm welcome to the Forum, where you will find lots of advice, much of it useful. :)
First thing to consider is your tech skills. How useful are you with spanners and such? Or will you need a techie to maintain the boat? The answer to this will then inform you of the age range of your boat. If you are happy to get your fingernails greasy, then you can look at an older boat, giving you more accommodation. A newish American sports cruiser, about 25 ft will be in your price range, but will sleep 4 in 2 double beds. Ok for overnighting, but you might want to spend more time on board? If so, then you will want more berths. Diesel engines are going to be more expensive to buy, but will hold their value better than petrol, will give you better fuel consumption, and more refuelling stations on the coast.
Good luck.
 
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I was going to suggest American cruisers and saw you have already giving them thoughts - something like Bayliner 265, Regal, doral, Chapparel, Crownline, or searay -
 
I've only seen the amazing effect that Riding for the Disabled has on the children they serve: it really does bring sunshine into their clouded lives.


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Welcome to the forum. I am sure everyone will be very gentle.

I would suggest you contact the professionals such as Solitaire, Elessar, Jonmendez or Powerskipper of this parish with a view to a weekend or few days practical experience and some basic experience / sea sense training. Talking and sailing with these guys will allow you to better understand what you want and the sort of limitations your family may have.

Please be aware Plymouth to Bude is one voyage not many on here would undertake lightly, but plenty of decent cruising from Plymouth to more local destinations.
 
Hi Jeremy

I have found this forum so welcoming and full of advice so you are starting your search in the right place.. couple of things to consider, we did our powerboat 2 with Seasports South west based in Teignmouth which may be local to you, but did ut in our own boat which was perfect. No connection, but found Tim a really easy guy to get on with.

When doing your sums, Birchells used to offer a store launch and retrieve service - not sure if they still do, but saves on marina fees, antifoul and keeps the legs out of the water when not in use ... downside is you may have to factor in a trailer to your costs, but worked well for us. Again no connection.

finally just looking around the internet and found this. We bought ours from Clipper - from new so connected in that way. But may tick a few boxes


http://www.clippermarine.co.uk/boat-for-sale/Bayliner-245-FOR-SALE-4489842.html

keep the forum posted, good luck and enjoy.
 
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Hi Jeremy

I have found this forum so welcoming and full of advice so you are starting your search in the right place.. couple of things to consider, we did our powerboat 2 with Seasports South west based in Teignmouth which may be local to you, but did ut in our own boat which was perfect. No connection, but found Tim a really easy guy to get on with.

When doing your sums, Birchells used to offer a store launch and retrieve service - not sure if they still do, but saves on marina fees, antifoul and keeps the legs out of the water when not in use ... downside is you may have to factor in a trailer to your costs, but worked well for us. Again no connection.

finally just looking around the internet and found this. We bought ours from Clipper - from new so connected in that way. But may tick a few boxes


http://www.clippermarine.co.uk/boat-for-sale/Bayliner-245-FOR-SALE-4489842.html

keep the forum posted, good luck and enjoy.
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Thank you for the link, saved to fave's, any similar links from people would be very much appreciated.

If I could go approx £18,000 I would be exceedingly happy but surely this would buy only "cheap" and problems or am I way off and wrong.
 
jeremyrundle said:
If I could go approx £18,000 I would be exceedingly happy but surely this would buy only "cheap" and problems or am I way off and wrong.
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Yes and no. At that price you could be bying a pile of trouble, but equally there are some cracking boats out there for under £20k. I sold an older shaped Bayliner a couple of years back for under £15k but I had put a brand new diesel engine in it, added a bow thruster, diesel heating and all sorts of other stuff. Yes the boat itself was old, but like Triggers broom, it had been given a new handle, and a new brush!
 
jeremyrundle said:
Thank you for the link, saved to fave's, any similar links from people would be very much appreciated.

If I could go approx £18,000 I would be exceedingly happy but surely this would buy only "cheap" and problems or am I way off and wrong.
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you're buying at the right time of year in my opinion Jeremy to get yourself a bargain boat, end of season blues + looming costs for maintenance/berthing renewals tends to cough up some good deals from sellers wishing to avoid further cost to a hobby they've discovered isn't for them. Save a search in Ebay filtered so that only boats within your requirements come up and save it so that Ebay reports the latest boats listed, it's a good method of catching one of those bargains before someone else snaps it up
 
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you're buying at the right time of year in my opinion Jeremy to get yourself a bargain boat, end of season blues + looming costs for maintenance/berthing renewals tends to cough up some good deals from sellers wishing to avoid further cost to a hobby they've discovered isn't for them. Save a search in Ebay filtered so that only boats within your requirements come up and save it so that Ebay reports the latest boats listed, it's a good method of catching one of those bargains before someone else snaps it up
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Hopefully this'll work.. a search something like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=boat&_dcat=1296&_sop=10&_osacat=1296&_from=R40&LH_PrefLoc=1&Boat%2520Type=Aft%2520Cabin%7CCabin%2520Cruiser%7CCruiser%2520%2528Power%2529%7CCuddy%2520Cabin%7CFlybridge%7CMotor%2520Yacht%7CSports%2520Cruiser%7C%21&_udhi=20000&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.X&_nkw=&_sacat=1296
 
Not sure whether you are settled upon either Plymouth or Torbay but FWIW I am at the Dry Stack, Yacht Haven Quay, Plymouth. If I were buying a boat of the size you are looking at - 25-30 ft ish, I would look closely at some of the benefits of dry stacking. If this location were of interest, Rob Cross of Southern Cross Yachts might be a really useful contact for you. Being on the dry stack he rather specialises in boats of this size and seems to do a fair bit of business. Good chap too. Bought and sold through him myself. I would guess he would have a number of options for you to view.

Hope this helps and welcome to the world of boating.

Andrew
 
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