Hypothetical "find me a...." (43-45ft Sporscruiser)

PowerYachtBlog said:
I think one of the best practical boats in this class is the Cayman 43 WA HT. Most of them have green lumps Tamd 75s but some do have Cats or Cummins.
This is a hard stretch for a Brit, a long stretch.

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Lines are Italian-American (designed by Nuvolari Lenard more Italian less US unlike Uniesse which is the other way round), so I am not sure a Brit looking at a Fairline Targa 47 can want this.
Italians always put it on there list when looking 13-14 meters, and they do sell subject to condition and age (produced from 2000 - 10) from 100k up 200k. Cayman build over 70 off the 43 which was a success for a small company which build around 10 to 20 boats a year. A 48 is also worth considering, and has three cabins.

Returning to the Brits I think I would give my first call the T47 followed by a V48 or or the 20 cm smaller and smaller engine V46.
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I think you're right, many of the boats that you rate above are a little too oddball for the average Brit like me. Current favourite for me is the Pershing 43 (amongst other things I particularly like the fore/aft orientation of the aft cabin and also the large porthole in the saloon).

T47 and V46 also worth considering. Incidentally, were they sold with anything other than Volvos?

It does appear that the advent of IP drives has made the 40-45ft sector pretty devoid of shaft drive boats.
 
petem said:
That's a interesting list. Can't say I found many of them that attractive apart from the Riva (too expensive and cramped for me) and the Pershings. The Baia One 43 is rather an usual design to say the least, particularly the cockpit!
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That extra beamy Baia one ( we viewed one btw ) has either D6 DPH - external steering rams and all or Yanmar 480,s but with Arnesons .
Choose your poison from a money pit POV around 10 y old .:)

Wide beam was in my mind a ? mark with regards deadrise ( I know it’s not the be all and end all ) plus rear weight bias sent seeking alarm bells from a sea keeping POV .
Any how there’s no 2 nd cabin as such it was more an open plan arrangement sleeping area tucked under the cockpit which along with the 2 or 3 bar stools in the cockpit put Mrs Porto off .

Also Pete another must have
Tender storage and as I all ready said an easy means of lifting on / off .
This one the Baia one 43 has twin opening cockpit doors onto the BP in a “ beach club “ kinda way .This means basically they have forgotten the tender issue .

By tender I mean a hard V bottomed permanently inflated ready to go .No Phaffing .
Either in a garage or sat on the BP . For extended tours and economic nights at anchor it helps if you have a decent tender .
That can carry 4 pax ashore .
 
Tender storage is an interesting question. Where we are based, there is really very little need for a tender (all the beaches are buoyed off with no landing areas for tenders). In some ways, I'd prefer a Jetski than a tender.

Our current tender has been folded up (taking up sorage space) under the aft cabin bunk for over a year. I reckon our tender outboard only has an hour of use on it.

I can see the attraction of a tender garage as it frees up the bathing platform for normal use (swimming / feet dangling at anchor). Porto, I guess you have to lauch your tender to get it out of the way? Conversely, tender garages restrict engine access and the mechanisms are something else that can go wrong.

So I think I favour the tender on bathing platform design. If we're cruising locally I could put the tender and outboard into storage and leave the BP empty or put a Seadoo on it.
 


It’s 4.2 beam with a 3.4 Capelli V bottom tender slightly offset to stb .
This means we can and do just flip the ladder down .
Also think about approaching new to you berths and handling lines etc .So unfettered access to the BP agree pretty important.


Sup sits on top of the tender , it’s easy to Chuck in or slide about .

It’s a interesting dim 13/14 M .......it ( your list + mine the bits you like ) can be done if look hard enough.

I would not completely write off the odd balls listed by PYB and MapisM without looking at few .
I know it’s temping to go for some one of our big 3 or 4 if Sealine is included.
You are not the only one contemplating making the jump from VP ( outdrives or IPS ) to 13/14 M ,or won’t be the last so there will be plenty of buyers in a pipeline behind you moving for exactly the reasons .
The Pershings are looking favourites tbh .
 
What about a Sunseeker Portofino 46 ? Only a little long. I appreciate it doesn't have the magic Fairline badge and they seem to be mainly Volvo powered.

Alternatively, a Sealine S48 - these look like a lot of boat for the money, and come with Cats. Bit longer than you wanted, and not sure you would go for a Sealine (all that room, and no saggy linings - they are not everyones cup of tea :) )
 
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