Hustler 35 with hanked-on foresails

[torchie303]

Hi all,


I have a Hustler 35 with hanked-on foresails and I don't want to drag sails out anymore or attempt to pack them away afterwards, and I don't like having to go to the bow in strong winds.


Hence I am looking for suggestions on a furling system for a Hustler 35?


I have no experience with any, but I am tempted by the Sailspar 150-32-130 as I like that it's made in the UK and the feedback about the company is very positive.


However, it was mentioned that the continuous line can need a lot of force in strong winds, so I thought I would ask the forum for some feedback on furlers.


To confirm, I am a cruiser so looking for the easiest option.


Thanks Jamie

 

[Wansworth]

From the drawing it has a massive overlapping Genoa would you consider reducing the sail size which will reduce the large roll on the forestry in the furled position .Or consider an even small working jib on a furler and set light weather sail out on a mini bowsprit.Asailmaker and or hustler owners club might have suggestions

 

[Daydream believer]

A Proful furler with integral forestay adjustment would fit the bill. It is not too high off the deck. As sail developement has moved on you might also consider a smaller foresail. The original was in the region of 28M2 but you could have something with less overlap & still get a good all round drive.You would not need to furl it quite so quick in stronger winds which will make better use of the shape

 

[Tranona]

That would be a good choice, and I agree with maybe considering a smaller genoa as a reefed full size one will be poor. something like a 120% overlap would cover a wide range of wind strengths. Suggest you discuss with your chosen sailmaker.

 

[torchie303]

Thanks so much for your advice , so I will approach a sail maker first !

Any suggestions for someone around the Chichester area who is very helpful ?

 

[DoubleEnder]

I’ve owned and used Sailspar and like it a lot. The small drum is much less visually intrusive, and I think it’s virtually impossible to get the furling line jammed. But I’d definitely recommend talking to your sailmaker and getting a smaller size sail built, whatever furling system you choose.

 

[DoubleEnder]

Thanks so much for your advice , so I will approach a sail maker first !

Any suggestions for someone around the Chichester area who is very helpful ?

Can’t go wrong with Sanders in Lymington. But I’m sure there are others

 

[Tranona]

Kemp Sails in Gosport or Batt sails in Bosham. Both make their sails in the UK.

 

[doug748]

"To confirm, I am a cruiser so looking for the easiest option."

I would measure the overlap at the mast ,of your favourite sail, which gives you a starting point before speaking to the sailmaker. It's quite possible that you have never flown the large light airs genoa shown on the plans.
As well as reducing the overlap, requesting a high clew helps furling, forward vision and sail handling - at the expense of some light wind performance, though many cruisers can live with that.

If expense was no consideration I would fit a Harken Furler and Saunders sails but there will no doubt be cheaper packages.

PS, Make sure you have a padded luff to help furled performance
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[Buck Turgidson]

I've got one on my Twister with 130% Jib. Works a treat.

 

[LittleSister]

Sailspar are lovely people to deal with. They were extremely helpful to me with information and advice, even though I wasn't the purchaser of the unit, and could supply various spares for a now obsolete model either off the shelf or would manufacture to order.

 

[KevO]

I had one on my Hustler 30 and I loved the continuous line. Never found it hard to furl at all as long as the sail isn’t full and sheeted hard. I wish my current one was a continuous line jobber.

 

[johnalison]

The massive genoas of that era hardly make for easy cruising, at least in today's terms. I had a Mystere 26 with a similar sail balance but at least the sails were much smaller to manage.

A furling jib/genoa will be higher cut anyway which will help, but I think, since we talking about cruising, you will need to work out the best combination covering light and heavier weather. I agree with the idea of a much smaller foresail, preferably laminate or equivalent, and then you will need to work out what chute, code zero or spinnaker will suit you best, and regard the pair as part of a system.

 

[Daydream believer]

I agree that you need a higher clue (to prevent bunched furling along the foot), but you will need a sheeting point further aft unless the sail is smaller. This is to extend the line of the mid point of sheeting on the sail. So a point to consider is the position of the genoa track & whether you can get the car before the winch. If you cannot, you may find that you are pulling too hard on the leech and you have a slack foot.

 

[PeterV]

If changing from hanked on sails I believe a number 2 Genoa size is about right for a furling headsail. A number one size would be partly furled a lot which affects its performance.
I did this when I changed my GK 29 from hanked to furler and it’s worked out very well, we can carry the full Genoa up to about 25 knots if pushing it, we start furling at about 18 to 20 knots if cruising, yet still don’t feel undercanvassed in light winds.

 

[johnalison]

I agree that you need a higher clue (to prevent bunched furling along the foot), but you will need a sheeting point further aft unless the sail is smaller. This is to extend the line of the mid point of sheeting on the sail. So a point to consider is the position of the genoa track & whether you can get the car before the winch. If you cannot, you may find that you are pulling too hard on the leech and you have a slack foot.

Someone else who hasn't a clew.

 

[Daydream believer]

Someone else who hasn't a clew.

You do not agree?
So what do you think was wrong with the comment, as I obviously need to learn

 

[PeterV]

The aft lower corner of a sail is called a clew.
Not a clue.

 

[Daydream believer]

The aft lower corner of a sail is called a clew.
Not a clue.

Ahh I see now. Careless Spelling mistake. Not sure how that got past the personal editor.
thanks

 

[jane444blue]

I have a Hustler 30. Sailmaker suggested a smaller 100% jib, (Shore sails now retired) 7 years ago as I'm often solo. It's great, never reef it. Then for racing, with crew I had a bigger 140% one made last year that's great too a fabulous curve. It's a lovely shape. Paul Newell sailmaker at Bembridge, he knows his stuff and works to the boat, rig and owner and how they use the boat. He's just made me a lovely ASail too.