evantica
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Hi. Hear much about H20 and H22. But the H18... any atlantic crossings in this little "ship"? What's your oppinion on such task (offshore that is!) in a Hurley 18?
Hurley 18
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sarabande
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can be done with some preparation and skill.
Try asking these people:-
http://www.hurleyownersassociation.co.uk/pages/h18.htm
Try asking these people:-
http://www.hurleyownersassociation.co.uk/pages/h18.htm
Wansworth
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By the looks of it a fine little boat.It enters what I would call the "Barrel syndrome boat" in relation to ocean crossing.Anything will cross the ocean..even little yellow ducks.The problem is the occupant.I would say the big draw back would be having reached the other side there would be little room for guests and partying.
sighmoon
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We used to have a Hurley 19 (which nobody's ever heard of), which was effectively a Hurley 18 with an extra foot stuck on the back. There are the deep keel Hurleys, which made fabulous ocean trips, and the shallow bilge / triple keel ones which are great for ditch crawling.
Ours was a poor example (cost £400), and it certainly wouldn't have been my first choice for an atlantic crossing. The mast cracked in action, which could maybe be expected for a bit of aluminium alloy, with steel fittings, that had spent 40 years bathed in saltwater, but surprised the hell out of me.
Ours was a poor example (cost £400), and it certainly wouldn't have been my first choice for an atlantic crossing. The mast cracked in action, which could maybe be expected for a bit of aluminium alloy, with steel fittings, that had spent 40 years bathed in saltwater, but surprised the hell out of me.
steve350
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My previous boat was a Hurley 18. I felt it was very seaworthy boat (for its size) and had great faith in it. It was my first boat and it looked after me despite my inexperience. I sold it to a chap who intended to sail it to Spain.
Seajet
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I'm sure a suitably prepared and handled example could take most that could be thrown at her.
On the other hand, I met a youngish couple who were making their way slowly down the French Canals in a Hurley 18, they had everything well organised and she seemed perfectly comfortable for two over many months.
On the other hand, I met a youngish couple who were making their way slowly down the French Canals in a Hurley 18, they had everything well organised and she seemed perfectly comfortable for two over many months.
LittleSister
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According to PBO's 'Which Boat', the points in favour of a Hurley 18 (actually 18 and a half feet LOA it says) are 'rugged, heavy-duty cruiser. Stiff, full bodied hull. Adequate fittings. Sensible outboard well'. Against, it said 'Smallish cockpit. Cramped berths. Deep draft'.
I thought I had read somewhere that at least one had crosssed the Atlantic. Having previously owned a Hurley 22, I have great faith in Ian Anderson's ability to design a great sea boat (and there's a close family likeness). I would certainly consider buying a Hurley 18, if the circumstances were right (suited home waters, budget, etc.), but it's not the boat I'd want to do the Atlantic in. That's principally because of size. Much as it's POSSIBLE to cross the Atlantic in an 18 footer, you have to leave out much of the safety and comfort gear that I, for one, would want to take (and the Hurley is not the most capacious 18 footer).
Even just a small increase in LOA from 18 foot gives you a lot more room.
There was a series of articles in PBO a few years ago by Alistair Buchan about preparing his Hurley20 for an Atlantic crossing (and previously various other travels, including Norway, I think). It might be useful to read those, even if you're interested in a Hurley 18, rather than a Hurley 20. They are well written and engaging, and while he's a fan of his Hurley he is not blind to its shortcomings
I thought I had read somewhere that at least one had crosssed the Atlantic. Having previously owned a Hurley 22, I have great faith in Ian Anderson's ability to design a great sea boat (and there's a close family likeness). I would certainly consider buying a Hurley 18, if the circumstances were right (suited home waters, budget, etc.), but it's not the boat I'd want to do the Atlantic in. That's principally because of size. Much as it's POSSIBLE to cross the Atlantic in an 18 footer, you have to leave out much of the safety and comfort gear that I, for one, would want to take (and the Hurley is not the most capacious 18 footer).
Even just a small increase in LOA from 18 foot gives you a lot more room.
There was a series of articles in PBO a few years ago by Alistair Buchan about preparing his Hurley20 for an Atlantic crossing (and previously various other travels, including Norway, I think). It might be useful to read those, even if you're interested in a Hurley 18, rather than a Hurley 20. They are well written and engaging, and while he's a fan of his Hurley he is not blind to its shortcomings
LittleSister
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Another couple of things to bear in mind.
1) Because of their age, and having been an out of favour type for many years, they will be cheap, but beware it will be extremely unlikely that you will find one that has been well maintained throughout its life. Consequenty you will most likely need to spend considerably more than the purchase price refitting a Hurley 18 for such a trip.
2) Keeping batteries charged is a perennial problem on a boat with a small outboard motor. For a long trip it's a major challenge. Of course you can work round it (or take the Shane Acton approach of dispensing with electrics), but bear it in mind.
1) Because of their age, and having been an out of favour type for many years, they will be cheap, but beware it will be extremely unlikely that you will find one that has been well maintained throughout its life. Consequenty you will most likely need to spend considerably more than the purchase price refitting a Hurley 18 for such a trip.
2) Keeping batteries charged is a perennial problem on a boat with a small outboard motor. For a long trip it's a major challenge. Of course you can work round it (or take the Shane Acton approach of dispensing with electrics), but bear it in mind.
evantica
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Appriciate your well spoken answers! The load capacity may be of consern?! One of the "ups" is it's a cheap boat = more money for windvane, gear and so on.... One thing more: If I want to put up double "headsail" (?!) on an "extension" of the bow (sorry for my crapy english) How does this do to the sailing stabillity? possible? Think it would be "nice" on downwind sailing?!
evantica
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Any other capable samall around 20 foot boats??? Looked at the Kingfisher 20 , but no one in Sweden. to expensive to import.
what about the Leisure 17? better/sturdyer than H18?
what about the Leisure 17? better/sturdyer than H18?
Tranona
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None of the boats that you are looking at are designed for ocean crossing. The fact that many have done so is more a tribute to the courrage and resourcefulness of the individual sailors than anything else. Doubt many people use these boats through choice, but more through lack of money for something more suitable.
evantica
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Tranona. So very true... But the sunset looks the same in a Hurley 18 for 2 grand, as in a 2000 grand Hallberg rassy. sailing is not for "some" it is for everyone!
doug748
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There is a Hurley 22 for £1,250 in tonights Plymouth Evening Herald, lying Torquay.
I would have a snooter round that.
sighmoon
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Well, I''ve found none other than my last boat, now for sale again:
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/yachts/thompson-t27-PAA11792
It sounds like she's been a little neglected, but 27' for £2750 might be a bargain.
A lot depends on condition, and you're sure to need to do a little work, but she would be one of the best boats at this end of the price spectrum to do a transat in. Nearly 6' draft on a 27 footer, with a big bulb at the bottom means she's stiff as a church. She has already sailed across the Atlantic (different preious owner). I've sailed her in some nasty conditions (the video he refers to was me), and she behaved herself perfectly.
She is also very very strong. I know this because she broke free of her mooring and bounced around on a pointy rock, in a two foot swell for pretty much 24 hours before I could get her off again. And yet, she was not holed. (She was deeply scratched though, and professionaly repaired - don't worry)
We sold her because we moved abroad. I've just bought another boat, but if I were in the market for a boat in this price range again, I'd certainly take a look.
(no connection to current vendor - but nice to see that my auld boat is alive and well)
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/yachts/thompson-t27-PAA11792
It sounds like she's been a little neglected, but 27' for £2750 might be a bargain.
A lot depends on condition, and you're sure to need to do a little work, but she would be one of the best boats at this end of the price spectrum to do a transat in. Nearly 6' draft on a 27 footer, with a big bulb at the bottom means she's stiff as a church. She has already sailed across the Atlantic (different preious owner). I've sailed her in some nasty conditions (the video he refers to was me), and she behaved herself perfectly.
She is also very very strong. I know this because she broke free of her mooring and bounced around on a pointy rock, in a two foot swell for pretty much 24 hours before I could get her off again. And yet, she was not holed. (She was deeply scratched though, and professionaly repaired - don't worry)
We sold her because we moved abroad. I've just bought another boat, but if I were in the market for a boat in this price range again, I'd certainly take a look.
(no connection to current vendor - but nice to see that my auld boat is alive and well)
evantica
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Today. this one is a possible offshore cruiser? The same as Albin Vega just smaller...
7,10 m long...just 1000 EUR your oppinion?
http://www.blocket.se/goteborg/Karlskrona_Viggen_32375201.htm?ca=23_3&w=3
7,10 m long...just 1000 EUR your oppinion?
http://www.blocket.se/goteborg/Karlskrona_Viggen_32375201.htm?ca=23_3&w=3