Hull built under Bureau Veritas Certification "Yacht/C ✠"

[PowerYachtBlog]

There ain't much there you won't find on a sunprinfair et al, except the air vent closers which is a nice touch and many builders omit in standard spec ( I have specced it on all my fairs since 2004 but was option not standard) and also the nice sounding sea chest.
Modern sports cruisers don't need scuppers because they have open transoms which obviously drain much faster and safely than any scupper
I'm not sure about a side door accidentally opening on sq65/s78. Wave pressure forces it shut so a human would need to open it. Darwin perhaps then comes into play. In any case a beam wave big enough to get cubic metres through the door would have sunk any 42 about an hour previously. But it would drain through the patio door and out of the transom gates and scuppers, or go down to the cabins then instantly ( through very large plywood float-up hatches) the bilges and be pumped out. Not a stay awake issue, I gotta say!

It is not easy always to say how water reacts (boat going up and down), but I know of a case of these open transoms, and very low to the water bathing platforms when the water was coming so fast in a Force 6 on a famous 50 footer in a following sea (down wind) that the cockpit was flooded with one feet of water, and all.
Result the water went into some wires and all electronics started going crazy. Think of this is you are going from Cannes to Mallorca or Corsica and you are in the middle of the sea. It is not pleasant at all.

I think RINA rules in the 90s on pleasure boats where very sensible; bathing platform height, large water scuppers etc etc.

 

[MapisM]

I am sure Mapis it was just on the design, and technical aspect of it and all its detail.

I can only take your word for it, yet the plate really suggests the opposite, considering also the IT description.
On which I know that you don't need any assistance, but just for the benefit of anyone else who doesn't speak IT, actually sounds slightly different and a bit more extensive than the EN "hull built under BV certification"), being more akin to "certified hull, built under BV surveillance".
Oh, well. If I will eventually purchase the thing, it will be fun to ask the certification papers and see what happens... :encouragement:

PS: as an aside (general) consideration, the more I look at used boats - all built around the decade overlapping the previous and the current millenium - the more I notice how the construction is actually better and stronger, in many respects, in the older boats.
Which is great, because obviously the market values do NOT reflect that, since most punters look at fancy features, witout even bothering to lift floor hatches.
One broker even asked me why I did that, 'cause nobody does, go figure....!

 

[MapisM]

I think RINA rules in the 90s on pleasure boats where very sensible; bathing platform height, large water scuppers etc etc.

Agreed, but I think (even without knowing Itama in detail) that Portofino has a point re. some builders willing to go the extra mile with features not required by regulations.
Consider the VZ18 for instance. I can't for the life of me think of any other GRP boat I've seen (let alone sub-20m!) with two large watertight compartments astern of the e/r: a technical lazarette (with the genset and other equipment, plus rudders underneath), the crew quarters, and eventually the e/r.
Christ, I could name boats where even the e/r itself is not a watertight compartment...! :ambivalence:

PS: btw, the above VZ18 setup is even better imho than the solution mostly adopted in 70+ footers, with the transom door access, because a) there's no risk of flooding the boat by leaving the door open, and b) all these compartments are easily and safely accessible directly from inside the boat, hence in all sort of sea conditions.

 

[Portofino]

Quote JFM post # 17
" Not a stay awake issue, I gotta say! "

There was one thing that nearly turned into a "stay awake issue " on the 1st night of the del trip
figuring how to turn off the emergency cabin lighting .

A late night phone call to the broker and we sussed it .

 

[jfm]

It is not easy always to say how water reacts (boat going up and down), but I know of a case of these open transoms, and very low to the water bathing platforms when the water was coming so fast in a Force 6 on a famous 50 footer in a following sea (down wind) that the cockpit was flooded with one feet of water, and all.
Result the water went into some wires and all electronics started going crazy. Think of this is you are going from Cannes to Mallorca or Corsica and you are in the middle of the sea. It is not pleasant at all.

It's difficult to comment PYB on a tale like this. It could have been a bad skipper. I gotta say, I've never once felt even close to green water coming over the stern in a motor boat and dumping a foot of water into the cockpit, with a skipper who knows what he is doing, and especially not in a force 6 even with unlimited fetch. So before taking this as a widespread scenario, I'd quietly wonder if the skipper was at fault or some other special feature was included in the mix

 

[MapisM]

J, while I agree that it doesn't sound like an unavoidable situation, I'd rather expect a decent 50 footer (let alone a "famous" one) not to get flooded and risk sinking in those sea conditions even if drifting with no power at all - which is something that can happen regardless of how good or bad the skipper is...

 

[MapisM]

I will share some experiences over a glass or 2. My daughter is working near Lake Como, so we will come out to see her at some point, so would be great to share a bottle with you. ��

Sorry, I only just noticed now this last line in your previous post. You are of course more than welcome, anytime - just say when! :encouragement: