How to get a burgee to the masthead?

[sailorman]

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If the masthead isn't available as in your case, the starb'd spreader is the place for a burgee. Signal flags and courtesy ensigns are relegated to the port spreader. Right?

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Wrong /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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It seems that "Royal Clubs" have a differing Flag Etiquette to us mere mortals with the Red Duster /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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[bumblefish]

I asked that question but can not find the thread on the search engine! Only my last 200 posts, not much use really. But this site is more less what I was advised. Eventides. And you could use the Ashley's constrictor knot for a more secure attachment/

 

[harvey]

or maybe....
See
http://www.rya.org.uk/KnowledgeBase/regulationsandsafety/flagetiquette.htm

for the RYA's view of this tricky dilemma!

 

[Alfie168]

Whats all this about flying a pedant........

Tim /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Loginname]

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I like the idea of a socket in the main headboard,

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...and when you reef your burgee will literally be at half mast..... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[Koeketiene]

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It is now common practice to fly the burgee at the starboard spreaders, however, no other flag may be flown above the burgee on the same halyard. You also may not fly any other flag above a national courtesy flag on the same halyard. If you fly your burgee at the starboard spreaders and are sailing in the territorial waters of another country you have a dilemma, however you choose to solve this, unless you fly your burgee at the top of the mast you will be contravening one or another element of flag etiquette.


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What should I worry about most?
The risk of insulting my host country, or contravening some archaic club by-laws?

In the wider scheme of things - I've served in the navy (merchant and military), whenever we've flown a courtesy ensign, it has always been from the starboard spreader.
IMHO: Burgees matter - in so far as they matter at all - only to yotties. So, I give precedence to the courtesy ensign.

 

[Searush]

FWIW, I was advised to wear the burgee on a garden cane, light & long and then use 2 clove hitches on the cane with the halyard. Sadly, mine is just not quite far enough forward to clear the windex. But the burgee tells me what's happening anyway.

 

[sailorman]

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If the masthead isn't available as in your case, the starb'd spreader is the place for a burgee. Signal flags and courtesy ensigns are relegated to the port spreader. Right?

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Wrong /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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It seems that "Royal Clubs" have a differing Flag Etiquette to us mere mortals with the Red Duster /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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[colvic987]

I have just sorted this out on the boat this weekend, i have a small cheek block at the top of the mast, and threaded a line through when i was fitting a new aerial, to get the burgee to the top i bought a piece of dowel around metre long, and as searush said hoisted it up to the masthead once it has been secured with two clove hitches.
i first sent an uncut dowel to the masthead to check that it cleared everything up there first, before cutting it to size.. then tied the burgee to the dowel using whipping twine around thin grooves cut into the dowel so the burgee will not slip off when flown...
it all seems to work ok at the moment

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[Seagreen]

OK, like this. I posted this a while ago, but its still on P/bucket so here it is again:

Masthead burgee stick:

How to: Get a stout bamboo cane from any garden centre, with enough height to clear the masthead gubbins, and 1.5 that height below the block. So cane should be 2.5x height over masthead in total length.

Get stout fence wire. make small loop in the top, bend and then bend again with a larger loop in the bottom end. The burgee lashes to this bit. cut the cane at the top end just by a node. you can lash this and epoxy it to reinforce. Drill this to fit a screw, which becomes the top swivel.

The burgee halyard gets clove-hitched to this, about halfway down and just off the bottom of the cane, pulled tight to avoid slippage. Hoist. Enjoy.

 

[FullCircle]

Seagreen, Top Answer, thanks very much.

 

[pyrojames]

Exactly what I have, but couldn't find the wherewithall to draw up. Well done. I put a loop in the wire just above the burgee so the the burgee hangs from the loop. This stops the burgee compressing its hoist, althougha tight lashing also works.