How to convince Crew they won't be Sea Sick - again

Csail said:
Someone mentioned scopoderm, not much good, crew might not be sick but will be sleeping non stop, also read the warnings. Ginger should help or just normal tablets or even a few beers.Oh and food before sailing.
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Not in swmbo's experience, definatly doesn't get drowsey and yes it is not suitable for everyone.
As someone who desperatly wanted to sail and has tried all suggested methods of combatting seasickness in the past, (salty crisps, ginger, wrist bands, pills of all sorts etc. etc.) this gets her over the first few days and that seems enough.
This is someone who has always suffered from travel sickness in some way or other.
 
Scotty_Tradewind said:
this gets her over the first few days and that seems enough.
This is someone who has always suffered from travel sickness in some way or other.
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This is what I have seen before - a day or two tops to find the legs, followed by an awreness perhaps but no further sea sickness unless down below in a hot bouncing cabin.

It certainly helps knock on the head by putting on the Helm or something to keep the brain active, and looking ahead at the Horzon etc.
 
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
So, myself and OH are struggling to find another couple to Charter with this year.

My BestMan (ironic title to be pointed out when I show him later ;) ) and I went a couple of years ago and he is firmly in the 'Yes' camp to going, and he knows his missus will love the actual holiday, the surroundings, eating, drinking, craic and alike if we were to return to the Gocek / Marmaris / Datca parts of Turkey.

Two hurdles (only one you lot can help with) has the fear of Sea-Sickness scuppering the whole idea.

His OH has gotten sea-sick many times before on Day trips abroad on the likes of Gulets, and Tripper boats. Ferries even.

Now I am of a positive mind (stubborn) that it can be overcome - either through drugs, wrist bands, positive mental attitude, keeping busy on board etc.

Looking at chartering an AWB of about 45ft so not exactly bobbing about in a bath tub, and in the benign waters of Gocek Bay to start with.

What would you do, how would you convince that the Sea Sickness will not ruin her holiday ?

Help me go sailing in the sun please.......
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Try going on the broads

Nice trad' sailing boats here

http://www.huntersyard.co.uk/
 
Lady Sailor said:
Oi, that's not my idea of a good holiday! :D
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Ah, but then I suspect you don't get seasick either! I gathered from the OP that changing SWMBO's just to make holiday plans simpler was not an option however.:D

I'm in a similar boat. My OH also suffers from motion sickness so sailing, flying small aircraft and long distance driving are all a challenge. She has tried all sorts of preventative measures without luck and some with adverse side effects already mentioned here. Things have improved somewhat over 30 years. I didn't think suggesting persevering with 'gradual resistance building' over that long was going to be helpful to the OP :)
 
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Why persist in a flawed plan?
The idea that a few days on Windermere (or the Broads) would expose her to a sick-making swell is optimistic.
If she is worried she will be sick, she will be sick.

Persuading her to go will end up in her being miserable, and the rest of you being miserable. She may never forgive you and the friendship may become frosty forever after.

Seems like a pretty selfish attitude.
If she expresses the worry, however seemingly keen she is to go, then she is worried.
 
Lakesailor said:
Why persist in a flawed plan?
The idea that a few days on Windermere (or the Broads) would expose her to a sick-making swell is optimistic.
If she is worried she will be sick, she will be sick.

Persuading her to go will end up in her being miserable, and the rest of you being miserable. She may never forgive you and the friendship may become frosty forever after.

Seems like a pretty selfish attitude.
If she expresses the worry, however seemingly keen she is to go, then she is worried.
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Agreed.... Pre Scopodern, my wife came with me to Falmouth a few years back. Flat calm nearly all the way and got rougher as we returned to Portsmouth. Eventually in moderate seas in a F6.... no problem as she appeared to acclimatise over the 10 days.
A couple of weeks later we got 1/4 mile out of Portsmouth and we had to do a 180 and get back inside the harbour as she felt dreadful.

Getting acclimatised on one trip does not neccesarily mean you are o.k. for the next. Some do benefit from a gradual build up of experience, some do not.
If you've never been seasick, you have no idea what it does to you psychologically too.
 
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
That's more like it ;)


And the trial run is actually what we (me and the mate) are planing - possibly even Windermere.

If sick there - we are truly Tom Ducked !

No sure fire remedies / cures / prevention aids out there Forumites can report back on ?
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Scopoderm patches are what have worked best for SWMBO. On the other hand we have not been out together in really bad stuff.
 
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Scotty_Tradewind said:
Not in swmbo's experience, definatly doesn't get drowsey and yes it is not suitable for everyone.
As someone who desperatly wanted to sail and has tried all suggested methods of combatting seasickness in the past, (salty crisps, ginger, wrist bands, pills of all sorts etc. etc.) this gets her over the first few days and that seems enough.
This is someone who has always suffered from travel sickness in some way or other.
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+1
 
I've only sailed in Turkey for a ten day trip out of Marmaris but it may be possible in some areas to plan for your reluctant sailor to travel between stopovers by road if the weather looks bad and re-join when the boat is tied up and has stopped going up and down. Taxis are easily bookable and mobile phones work fine. Taking a handheld VHF would also help with communications

You may have to restrict your itinerary, but you could research which area to go to, perhaps using the combined wisdom of this forum or cross posting to the liveaboard forum as there are bound to be people there who have lived in Turkey for some time.

The fact that there is a "get off the boat free" card may take some of the pressure off your friend and this would help her to enjoy the holiday with less worry about having to endure bad conditions

I hope it works out
 
Cheers Graham, and totally agree with all of that coast line from Datc round to Fethiye - easy to jump on and of if needed or be no more than an hour from Terra Firma.

To be honest, and no pun intended, it is all a little bit of a case of Storm in a Teacup !
 
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
That's more like it ;)


And the trial run is actually what we (me and the mate) are planing - possibly even Windermere.

If sick there - we are truly Tom Ducked !

No sure fire remedies / cures / prevention aids out there Forumites can report back on ?
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Just my experience, which so far is 100%.
I have been so sick on fishing boats and the like, that I didn't go out anymore.
Then I bought a small boat this year!
My daughter bought me a box of tablets for my birthday (as a joke) and they have worked brilliantly.
They are from Boots, called 'Travel Calm', grey box with an aircraft, car and a plane on it.
Just take one 20 mins before you go out - excellent!

Good luck, I hope it works out for you.
 
I've had a tendency to get seasick, or at least start feeling it, as well. I can definitely recommend good placebos, used to instill confidence that "Now I've taken this, I'm definitely not going to get sick." ;-)

Secondly I'll say I've yet to get sick while racing - with enough to do, sails to trim, focusing on speed, rounding marks etc., I simple haven't had time to. Probably not the best holiday experience for everyone, but it might well help to make sure those who start feeling iffy are kept active.
 
No amount of persuading your BM's OH that she won't be seasick is going to work. If anything, it is going to put her under greater pressure and that may backfire.

So, I think you and your OH and your BM need to have a long hard think just how much (or, more particularly, how little) sailing you need to do for the holiday to be considered a success in your opinion. If the answer is very little, and you are prepared to spend whole days ashore to give your friend's OH a break if she is really feeling the sickness, then I suspect you can make it work.

If, on the other hand, you really want to be out sailing every day when the wind is F6 or less then you are not going to give her a break and I can see that could go badly wrong.

With a SWMBO (and one of my two kids) who has a tendency to get badly seasick, I don't set any rigid expectations and I am happy to tie up and go ashore at her request. Easy for me to do, since I own my own boat and can go sailing when I want to (with or without SWMBO).

So, agree amongst you what you want out of the holiday sailing wise and, if you are prepared to moderate your expectations to make it an enjoyable trip for all, then tell her and it may make all the difference between bliss and a wretched time. Just make sure you mean what you tell her.

Oh, and go prepared with all the remedies already mentioned.
 
Angele said:
No amount of persuading your BM's OH that she won't be seasick is going to work. If anything, it is going to put her under greater pressure and that may backfire.

So, I think you and your OH and your BM need to have a long hard think just how much (or, more particularly, how little) sailing you need to do for the holiday to be considered a success in your opinion. If the answer is very little, and you are prepared to spend whole days ashore to give your friend's OH a break if she is really feeling the sickness, then I suspect you can make it work.

If, on the other hand, you really want to be out sailing every day when the wind is F6 or less then you are not going to give her a break and I can see that could go badly wrong.

With a SWMBO (and one of my two kids) who has a tendency to get badly seasick, I don't set any rigid expectations and I am happy to tie up and go ashore at her request. Easy for me to do, since I own my own boat and can go sailing when I want to (with or without SWMBO).

So, agree amongst you what you want out of the holiday sailing wise and, if you are prepared to moderate your expectations to make it an enjoyable trip for all, then tell her and it may make all the difference between bliss and a wretched time. Just make sure you mean what you tell her.

Oh, and go prepared with all the remedies already mentioned.
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Nail. Head. Hit.... thanks and the various remedies, lotions, potions and placebo's mentioned here are what I was hoping to hear and get from the thread too.
 
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