How sad this is.

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Just been viewing Sea Watch UK on ITV. Cameras followed a RN Coastal Patrol vessel in UK territorial waters with rather overblown 'Bond' style music and voiceover soundtrack as it hunted down a trawler. RIB with three muscular RN despatched to conduct an onboard spot check - cut to RN personnel closely scrutinising the Skipper's log and diary and much 'sotto voce' comment to camera about suspicious entries with VHF reports hotly relayed to the Mother vessel. The operation reached a climax when the RN decided to count the catch. A rather disappointed team leader reported to camera and the Mother vessel that contrary to the prematurely voiced guilty verdicts --------------- All was in order. The unbelievable end to this piece was a word to the camera that this was a very frustrating outcome for the lads - to find that the Skipper was - after all - not guilty of anything.

It is so sad that this type of reality TV nonsense is taking up RN time and resources when there are real priorities being poorly served elsewhere.
 
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ctelfer38 said:
Just been viewing Sea Watch UK on ITV. Cameras followed a RN Coastal Patrol vessel in UK territorial waters with rather overblown 'Bond' style music a voiceover soundtrack as it bravely hunted down a trawling vessel. RIB with three muscular RN despatched to conduct an onboard spot check - cut to RN personnel closely scrutinising the Skipper's log and diary and much 'sotto voce' comment to camera about suspicious entries with VHF reports hotly relayed to the Mother vessel. The operation reached a climax when the RN decided to count the catch. A shocked team leader reported to camera and the Mother vessel that contrary to the prematurely voiced guilty verdicts --------------- All was in order. The unbelievable end to this piece was a word to the camera that this was a very frustrating outcome for the lads - to find that the Skipper was - after all - not guilty of anything.

It is so sad that this type of reality TV nonsense is taking up RN time and resources when there are real priorities being poorly served elsehwere.
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nice boat you have there
 
I had a different impression, that the skipper had mislaid his deck diary, and that in the absence of evidence to the contrary, the RN patrol had to accept that in 6 days fishing the skipper had achieved his target limit in just one day, with no worthwhile catch thereafter.
 
yes, it's sad that the patrol was unable to catch a villain, but if the skipper hadn't done anything wrong, then the benefit of the exercise is that he will pass the word around to his colleagues that the RN is active and liable to jump out and board fishing vessels which look as if they are breaking the law.

To me, that's a good result, and the Captain and crew were probably quite glad to land the camera team after their one day jolly, and then get on with the more discrete stuff. The programme had the hall marks of a - sadly - boring day's work instead of a nice juicy PR coup.
 
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sarabande said:
yes, it's sad that the patrol was unable to catch a villain, but if the skipper hadn't done anything wrong, then the benefit of the exercise is that he will pass the word around to his colleagues that the RN is active and liable to jump out and board fishing vessels which look as if they are breaking the law.

To me, that's a good result, and the Captain and crew were probably quite glad to land the camera team after their one day jolly, and then get on with the more discrete stuff. The programme had the hall marks of a - sadly - boring day's work instead of a nice juicy PR coup.
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Let us both be sad - but for different reasons
 
CharlesSwallow said:
doesn't 27hp per 53ft say something about the way we maybe overpower modern yachts?
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I can remember leaving Drambuie once into a strong Westerley. We made no headway at all into wind and sea with a 40 horse in a 36 footer. A similar sized boat with a 120bhp engine battled against it and won. We had to wait for the following day.

There are plenty of times you want to work direct into wind and sea so IMHO even on a sailing yacht there aint no substitute for power.

Having said that I've raced on boats with useless engines and managed ok... so.. err...

My 2ps worth.
 
CharlesSwallow said:
doesn't 27hp per 53ft say something about the way we maybe overpower modern yachts?
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Seeing as someone has already drifted the thread...

Back in the 60s & 70s, 1 hp per ton was normal for an auxiliary. It would get you along in a flat calm and berthing. 3 hp per ton was enough for a motor sailer. Today most auxiliaries have 6+ hp per ton. I have 12 .
 
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snowleopard said:
Seeing as someone has already drifted the thread...

Back in the 60s & 70s, 1 hp per ton was normal for an auxiliary. It would get you along in a flat calm and berthing. 3 hp per ton was enough for a motor sailer. Today most auxiliaries have 6+ hp per ton. I have 12 .
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not really thread drift if you think about it. Doubtful use of power applies in both cases.
 
Ah, that's interesting...

snowleopard said:
Seeing as someone has already drifted the thread...QUOTE]

What has now been given the label "Thread drifting" but what was freely indulged in, before and simply known as "not answering the question but instead picking up on some other aspect of the post" is now then frowned upon, eh?

That was one of the main reasons why the friend who introduced Kentrina and myself to these forums, said he would never return to them:- "nobody would ever give you a straight answer"

Ah well, times and attitudes change, I suppose and if wikipedia can change the accepted meanings of previously well-understood words and Simon Cowles, the opinions of a nation, who am I to argue?

Chas
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I think that Thread drift,is the only way we can broaden out any subject on here.Chas has a lot of knowledge about Greece
I also think that people have a downer on chas. Perhapse he is not right all the time .But i don`t think that ,of most posters myself included. It takes all types to make this forum interesting

cheers bobt
 
It's all just about par for the course nowadays though, no? I've spent most of the last 4 years or so out of UK, now I'm back (temporarily) and can't believe what sh**e there is on TV (freeview that is), all that police rubbish, violence, bad driving, etc. you see on the likes of Virgin One, etc, etc. Most of the channels that come with saturation advertising I have now all but given up even trying to watch what's on there, you sit down to watch, ten minutes in and you have to endure 5 minutes of advertising and so it goes on, have to hit mute button every time ad break starts, rant rant. Grateful for small mercies now that Talisker ad has gone, I will never buy any Talisker...
 
djbreeze said:
It's all just about par for the course nowadays though, no? I've spent most of the last 4 years or so out of UK, now I'm back (temporarily) and can't believe what sh**e there is on TV (freeview that is), all that police rubbish, violence, bad driving, etc. you see on the likes of Virgin One, etc, etc. Most of the channels that come with saturation advertising I have now all but given up even trying to watch what's on there, you sit down to watch, ten minutes in and you have to endure 5 minutes of advertising and so it goes on, have to hit mute button every time ad break starts, rant rant. Grateful for small mercies now that Talisker ad has gone, I will never buy any Talisker...
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...................and of course all channels now go to adverts at the same time, so you cant avoid them. That of course is what they are thinking.
Oh so glad i don't have to buy a TV license.
Never could understand why peeps pay the likes of Sky TV so as they can watch there adverts.
 
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