How much money for summer and vinter in UK east coast marinas?

[Flizzaff]

Hope i'm able to explain!

If I sail to east coast in UK and leave my boat on land there during the winter, and if i want to rent a summer-stand in the Water;
How much money do I have to pay for a year?
My boat are 8,25-2,50 meters.

I live in Sweden and my UK language are rusty.

 

[Tradewinds]

Hi,

The rates for the 2008/2009 season for Suffolk Yacht Harbour at Levington on the River Orwell are as follows:-

Swinging mooring (on the river) opposite the marina
For vessels between 6m & 12m 1st April 2008 - 31st October 2008 - £97.00 metre
(Subject to availability)

Winter berthing on a pontoon 1st November - 31st March - £79.00 per metre


Hardstanding for the winter - £2.90 per metre per week + lift out + cradle hire etc.

All prices subject to VAT at 17.5%

Go to SYH here

Hope this helps

 

[Flizzaff]

Do you understand?

Yes.

No.

Maybe.

Don't want to answer such a stupid question.


I'm gonna take my english world book to learn more english if you don't understand! I'll promise!!

One more try:

If I sail to England and the summer runs away, if I had to leave my boat in your country, then i wonder how many pounds it costs for for me to let your country carry my boat????

 

[alldownwind]

Your English is excellent, don't worry!
Might be cheaper in Kent, handy for Dover if you want to travel from Sweden by car. Try here: www.swalemarina.co.uk and here: www.gillingham-marina.co.uk
Or you could join a club with moorings and winter hard-standing, like this one: www.medwayyachtclub.com
The websites should tell you what the cost should be.

 

[Flizzaff]

Thank you Tradewinds!!!

In the same time you draw, I draw to clear and explain my original message.

 

[caol]

Some thoughts

There are relatively few marinas in the area, by comparison with the south coast. The greatest concentration of marina based boats is on the River Orwell, which tends to be crowded in summer.

Costs vary considerably according to facilities, location and accessibility. Some of the marinas, especially on the Blackwater, have access limited by the tide and others are quite far up the estuaries, so there is a fair way to go before you get out to sea.

There are also a few places (like Heybridge Basin) where boats lock in and out and stay afloat - but also come and go at or near high water.

It isn't always easy to find out about prices because they aren't always published on websites, but an example might be Tollesbury, which does show 2007 prices on the site. Good facilities, but limited access because of tide - £134 per metre (plus 17.5% VAT) for 6 months over the summer and £10 per metre per month (plus VAT) for winter storage. I imagine full access marinas like Woolverstone on the Orwell cost a fair bit more, but there are others that would be less expensive as well. There are also boatyards not associated with marinas where it is possible to find winter storage.

An alternative, if you don't want to spend too much, might be a mud berth. These are berths alongside pilings, usually with some facilities like water, but where the boat takes the ground on each tide. This is not an unusual thing in this area, where there is a significant tidal range (3.5 - 5 metres, neaps to springs) and the coast slopes gradually, so we don't have many conventional harbours - most waterfronts dry. I know the manager of one boatyard with mudberths. Nicer than it sounds - with a friendly club and good facilities near by. I am sure they could find you a berth.

As you can see, your question is not entirely simple. I would be happy to make more specific suggestions if you are able to give any more information about your plans and priorities.

I have sent a private message. Happy to help if I can and I have a Swedish friend who would translate if you would find it easier to write in Swedish.

 

[caol]

Travel between UK and Sweden

Dover has been mentioned. You might want to bear in mind, though, that there are ferries between Harwich in Essex and Esjberg in Denmark - short drive across to Sweden.

 

[caol]

Re: Travel between UK and Sweden

Also, flights to Stansted in Essex from Malmo and Stockholm. Stansted is about 45 minutes drive from the coast.

 

[Flizzaff]

Re: Some thoughts

Thanks!

Now I've read the messages and recognise there's werry expensive in England. I have not yet exactly count the digits from all of You, but:

To compare:

In Sweden I pay 384 pounds for the summer in sea, moored into a bridge, and winter on the land.
Many people here says it's expensive!!! (WHAT ?!!!).

 

[caol]

It is, indeed, expensive

However, you have specifically asked about marinas and these do cost a lot, but there are alternatives. My mooring, for example, where the boat lies afloat at all states of the tide, costs me £80 per year. If I haul out for the winter that will be another £200 or so, but I could find a cheaper option.

In your place, I would look at alternatives to marinas. Not quite so convenient, perhaps, but much cheaper and in many ways more pleasant (to my way of thinking, anyway)

 

[Flizzaff]

Re: It is, indeed, expensive

Yes! Thank you caol!

You are right! I specifically asked for marinas and did not know what I'm done. I.ll better learn Mores!
What's the name of the alternatives that you mensioned?

 

[caol]

Alternatives

Swinging moorings (for the summer, at least) and mud berths, which are generally a lot cheaper than marinas. You might also consider fore and aft mooring between pilings.

If you don't mind leaving the boat in the water over the winter there are places where she will be quite safe in a mud berth and actually sitting on the soft mud for more time than she is in the water.

In a mud berth you will normally be able to step ashore. Most have water and some have electricity. On a mooring or between pilings you will need a dinghy, but there are places that have regular launch services, some of which are free. Of course, you would still need a dinghy, as anchoring is free and we have so many sheltered and secluded places to anchor.

 

[MrCramp]

Your English is good enough don't worry about it.

What do you want to do?

Do you want to sail over to the UK and then cruise around for a few months, visiting different places?

Or do you want to sail over and then be based in one place most of the time, and sail in that local area?

If you want to keep travelling back to Sweden it becomes more important to make sure you get a mooring on a river, or a mooring (berth) in a marina where there is good access to ferries or airports.

For winter it is possible to find cheaper storage (rough estimate £500) but it would depend on whether you need to be near an airport or ferry terminal.

If you give us an idea of where you want to go and how long you are staying and your visits from Sweden then maybe we can provide you with more suitable information.

 

[Flizzaff]

Re: Alternatives

All Right!

My boat has a single keel. (A few english boats i've seen here has two keels).
Are my boat gonna sink in the mud and still stays uppright?

Is there ice in the winter?

Have You problems with 'osmos?' it's blisters in the glassfiber in the 'under-water-body?'
Here in Swede they recomend to have a boat in winter-water only one season. If longer, then blisters can occure.

 

[Flizzaff]

Yes, maybe i sail around some places and turns back home, but if somethings negativley happens, I'd better have a permanent (and sheap) place to leave my boat.

I don't know the komunications in England. I can travel by buss to ferrys or air-planes.

 

[pyrojames]

Similar prices in Ipswich Haven Marina for the winter. Closer to transport links if you are coming over from abroad.

 

[Cobra]

Re: Alternatives

[ QUOTE ]
All Right!

My boat has a single keel. (A few english boats i've seen here has two keels).
Are my boat gonna sink in the mud and still stays uppright?

[/ QUOTE ] No worries here! East Coast mud is both soft and deep! Your fin keel will sink in and you should sit upright in a mud berth!

[ QUOTE ]
Is there ice in the winter?

[/ QUOTE ] The last time there was any ice that caused a real problem was in 1963! Since then in an EXCEPTIONALLY long cold spell we do get some very light ice on the water, but nothing to worry about!

[ QUOTE ]
Have You problems with 'osmos?' it's blisters in the glassfiber in the 'under-water-body?'
Here in Swede they recomend to have a boat in winter-water only one season. If longer, then blisters can occure.

[/ QUOTE ] At the end of the day, the problem rests mainly with the construction of the boat and the type of resin used in the construction. Some people say you should take the boat out every winter, there are others who leave their boats in year after year and never suffer with osmosis!

As a guide to non marina pricing for all types of mooring (pontoon, pile, swinging) and shore based lay up in Brightlingsea (or mud berth!) take a look HERE

 

[MrCramp]

Is this a spoof??

 

[Marmalade]

big ol' troll for my money

 

[Flizzaff]

[ QUOTE ]
Is this a spoof??

[/ QUOTE ]

What spoof?? This is werry serious! I don't know what you mean.
Please explain who's spoofing ??? I'm not spoofing. Do they spoofing me?
If I tell the Swedes that my boat gonna sink in the mud, in UK, maybe they're think I'm a spoofer.
What?????