How much (if ever) do you jump on other boats/adjust their lines

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I hardly ever -if ever- do this. But the WNS scenarios seem to involve plenty of it. I try use bits of pontoon cleats with round turn and two half hitches so that other people don't have to move my lines frionstance, and it would be a mega no-no if anyone ever tried dangling their boat off my stern cleats to do an IRT for example. Actually, i don't think I have have ever seen anyone else move or adjust or alter other people's lines either, or not much if at all. I am a bit weird in this....or is WNS a bit off in this respect?
 
Its a bit like going into someone else garden I think - bit of a no no unless you are asked.


Certainly the only time i have been on other boats when owner not there is to adj a flapping haliyard or to adjust a slack spring sort of thing and this latter job is usually a pontoon job.

Having hairy ars.ed blokes roaming over my unattended deck would def. cause me a problem esp. adj lines and leaving foot marks or whatever
 
Agree; it would have to be pretty serious a situation to justify adjusting another boat's lines or using their cleats as a bollard IRT style. Specifically on the IRT thing, I think it was plain rude to hang a fender on another boat and then use its cleats with your engines running, to turn your own boat ITR style, especially when not even necessary. If I had been on the classic yacht I'd have cast the mobo off and told him to take a hike, as I think you said in another post. TJ never really responded to the criticisms of that aspect of IRT. But yes, there is generally far too much of this interference theme in IRT, and it should be explained that such behaviour is absolute last resort
 
At risk of getting into trouble again /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Yacht at side of me had 4 fenders on his pontoon side and none between us.

I have 4 between us but he really needed one on his quarter close to me, as there is only inches between us.

I took 3 fenders out my garage at home and attached all 3 of my fenders down his side.

I also adjusted one line to stop us hitting each other.

I have never seen him at all in 6 months .

His boat has been out a few times and back, the fenders are still there.

He is welcome to keep them, I don't expect to get them back.

I hope he is happy, I would have preferred to have spoken to him but he isn't around when I am.

I did walk on his boat carefully with boaty shoes to fasten them on.

I do not hesitate in boarding a boat to make fast a canopy, turn a vhf off etc.
I prefer a HM to be around if possible but if it is windy a cover can be damaged while you wait.

Yes one person objected once, his screen cover was going in a gale, I went on his deck to make fast and let him know by text one Popper was damaged, never really spoke to me after that.

My background is from a club where we all help each other.
 
Is there not a danger that if something goes missing off the boat & a 'witness' happens to say 'I saw a person described as X' on your boat then we might have a hard job proving our innocence? Hope that thought makes sense.
 
I would have no objection to you boarding my boat to do something necessary for her safety or well-being. In fact I would be very grateful. Nor would I mind if you ran a line to a cleat to help get yourself out of a difficult berth, for example [as long as you didn't overload it]. Just seems like commonsense and good seamanship to me; or am I missing the point?

[Oh, and whilst you're on board, there's a piece of sandpaper under the sprayhood, should you fancy rubbing down a bit of varnishwork]
 
Can't see why you should get into trouble.
I did something similar in a very few occasions, and would gladly buy a beer to anyone reciprocating with my boat, as long as they know what they're doing of course.
On the other hand, I never considered to do that just to facilitate my own maneuver, and if - as I understand - this is the main scope of the question, then yes, some wns are definitely a bit off imho.
Not that I see it as necessarily rude, but it just isn't an option in my mind.
 
I don't have a problem with going on somebody's boat to adjust lines put a fender on or what ever is needed to make sure that everything is safe for me and them!

I also don't have a problem with anybody going on mine to make sure that she is safe.

After all we are all in this together. I spent a weekend on my boat recently as I was worried about the storm coming in (with it turned out I had just cause to be) most of my Saturday night Sunday morning was spent stopping damage to mine and my pontoon neighbours boats. Damage for the night consisted of damaged hawse pipe on my boat, broken cleat on next but one and a scratch on his rubbing strake.

Stepping on my boat to help protect it will gain you a drink!

The local lowlife going on board will get them long distance swimming lessons.

As for what if.................. I'll continue to risk it.

Tom /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
I moor in a harbour where there are no quayside berths free. So it is necessary to raft up for loading/ unloading & when shopping etc. It is normal to tie to next boat. if owner is present I ask permission, if theyre not there, I cannot ask.

Coming in/out of a tight berth (anywhere) it is better to put a crew member aboard an adjacent boat to help fend off than to risk scraping alongside (fenders will sometimes ride up or pull off). When solo i have been known to step on a boat with my bow & stern lines in my hand so I can tie alongside safely, under control and without damage.

As for sorting out someone else's problem OF COURSE we should. I hope you would do the same for me. Most people cannot spend all their time aboard, we need each other's help and support. In my book, anyone who isn't grateful for another's help is pretty foolish.
 
Done it a few times just to help protect other peoples boats. Earlier this year there was a yacht's boom (I think that's the name) swinging left to right badly in strong winds - just climb onboard and made secure - at the same time trying not to leave any marks etc.

Other times I see people boat canvas coming adrfit and just make secure again.

I hope people would do the same for me.
 
Occasionally race a boat that is kept on a club pontoon where rafting is the only way to fit enough boats.

As a result the members are always warping each other's boats around to get their boat out, never heard of an incident but I guess they all know each other if there was a problem.
 
I've done it quite often on an adjacent boat owned by an elderly gent.
Also sat on the bows of another for a couple of hrs keeping it off the quay wall during very high Spring Tide.
Have also altered lines elsewhere if a problem was obvious - have told the boat owner when he reappeared and got thanked for my trouble.

Wouldn't object if someone did the same for me. We're sort of all in the same boat aren't we.
 
Very often.

On our pontoon we have only had one new boat/owner in the last five years. So we all know each other. We dry out for about five hours each tide and are walled in on three sides, but are open to the Medway from the north. If we get a howling north easterly then it gets so rough that you may not be able to walk down the pontoon and owners of small boats may not be able to board their bouncing boats. In these conditions slack lines to avoid snatching and plenty of fenders are the order of the day. If your the only one there you have to deal with it.

We all keep an eye on everyone else's boat. Even to the point of pinching a fender from one boat to help another or turning someone's boat round to face into the weather. We all work and we can't all get there in a drop of a hat. We trust and rely on each other.
 
Yup didnt get that bit in WNS about tying to the bow line of the moored yacht to and pulling on it. Seems very strange, I mean its kinda treating the yacht as if its a shore cleat to secure to instead of someones property...........odd

Would got about to secure a moored boat, my staff have to do that as they check the boats every mornng and if one needs more lines or fenders we attend to it as part of the service. However in any case if they or I see any boat not properly secured we either sort it or report t to the marina staff.
 
Agree with jfm. Using other peeps boats to do IRT's is a no no unless as last resort.
I have jumped on other peeps boats to adjust fenders but only 'coz there was a risk to my boat. I did get into an argument once with the kraut next door who nicked one of my bow lines because he objected to me getting on his boat to nick it back. Luckily a marinero ruled in my favour
One thing I am quite religious about though is putting stern line loops under and through other peep's loops on bollards. You don't want other peeps taking your loops off the bollards when they go out because they're not likely to put them back
 
Very often, in order to protect a friends boat. We (our marina/jetty) all assume that peeps will check each others ropes / fenders etc as required.
 
Living in spiting distance of the boat I'll often go down when it's windy to check on the boat. I don't think I could walk past a boat and not do anything to help. " months ago there was a yacht opposite and the spring had slipped and the bow kept bumping into the pontoon. I never thought some people would object to helping in a situation like that.
 
Hello Matt.

I do it loads, the boat next to mine is very poorly tied on, often the stem rubbing the pontoon, I try to move it back a few inches when I see it rubbing, its trickey cos his lines are so crap and a bit too short.

My mooring surrounded by silly ribs, I move them all the time.

If I do step on another boat to adjust line always kick off my shoes, if someone on board then ask first.
 
I think the replies in general are answering a different scenario. Lots of folks have said they would go on another boat/adjust lines to fix a problem, rescue the other boat if it was bumping the quay or ahtever, or go onto friends/club boats. That all seems fine to me

But I thought (and tell me if I'm worng) you were asking about boarding another boat somply cos it's convenient to you, and not cos there is no danger to the other boat. Eg, using the classic yacht as a bollard in the IRT, or adjusting the dory lines in the current WNS to give you more space twixt piles. It's in these situations that i think interfering with another boat is last resprt and should rarely be done. Nothing to do with helping/rescuing the other boat if it's in danger of damage etc
 
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