How much engine oil?

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The manual says the engine requires 4.5 litres of oil. But does this include the amount used by the oil filter or do you add more for that?

Also, if the engine is installed at an angle (say 10 degrees), does the amount of oil required change?

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It's normal for the quoted capacity to include the contents of the filter. So when you change the oil, if you top it up to the dipstick mark, you'll find that once you've run the engine and filled the new filter, you'lll need to add more to bring it up to the mark again.
As for angle of heel - never heard of this being an issue. After all, the engine in any boat could well be running with more heel that 10 degrees, when motor-sailing.
Hope this helps anyway.

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I reiterate from an earlier post. Most engines have three oil capacities; oil change no filter change, oil change with filter change, and refill after dismantling. I would aim on the quantity stated being being the latter, and at about 3.8l dip and check, then add about 200 ml at a timebut no more than 4.5l total.

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empty it, change the filter, put in what the manufacturer says, thats it.
stu

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Pedantic I know but you can't have the latter of three (options)

Sorry....bored....nothing much on this morning/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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Pedantic I know but you can't have the latter of three (options)

The Oxford Dictionary would appear to be less pedantic than you! /forums/images/icons/smile.gif



The second mentioned of two (opp. former); (more loosely) the last mentioned of several.
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Excerpted from Oxford Talking Dictionary
Copyright © 1998 The Learning Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.


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Re:Only be pedantic if you\'r right.

Just have had to look up a spelling for another post, so The Consice Oxford Dictionary happens to be next to my mouse and states "Latter.... second mentioned of two (opposite of former),....last mentioned of three or more."!!!
I seem to spend half my time checking my spelling when I am posting on these forums.
Paul

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The fore and aft angle of the engine (most are down at the stern) does not alter the total quantity of oil that your engine needs but it does alter how much you can pump out and therefore how much is needed to refill it.

My engine (Mercedes OM636) is down at the stern and I estimate there is about a litre of oil that I cannot get out. I have a proper extraction tube fitted to the sump drain but, because of the tilt of the engine, that is no longer the lowest point. This is why my nice new oil is black again after 5 minutes running.

To combat this problem, once a year at laying up time, I buy 10 litres of oil instead of five. After the first pump out I add 2.5 litres which is just enough to cover the bottom mark on the dip-stick. I run the engine for five minutes, pump out, add the next 2.5 litres, run for 5 minutes and pump out again. The next fill (to the top line this time) is the final one for the winter. It costs me an extra £12 or so but it leaves my engine with perfectly clean oil for the winter.

If anyone can tell me a different way to ensure that all the old oil has been removed I would be very interested. Meanwhile, I consider my £12 to be money well spent.

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Re:Spelling on the forum

Compile your post in Word or Wordpad, use its spell checker then copy and paste back into the forum.

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I have a Yanmar 2GM20 which I have to pump out by inserting a tube connected to an oil pump down the hole the dip stick goes in. I poke the tube down to the rear of the sump, which is the lowest point and pump away, and manage to get most of the oil out.

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Re:Spelling on the forum

I struggle to write intelligent replies and post them to the forum, particularly as the evening goes on. If I try to be clever and do as you suggest I loose things all over the place, but I am sure you are correct. Thanks. Paul

<hr width=100% size=1>" there is nothing-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats".
 
Well..... if you're prepared to be 'more loosely thats your choice. I strive to maintain higher standards/forums/images/icons/smile.gif
I think its a tragedy the way the apathetic acceptance of colloquial use is corrupting our beautiful language. Personally, I would have anyone who spoke of two alternatives flogged before the mast/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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Re: Getting all the oil out

Consider how your garage ensures that they get all the old oil out of your car engine. The answer is that they drain out or suck out what comes out then fill up with fresh which is why by the time you've driven home, with a diesel car any way, the oil is as black as it was when you took it in.

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Re:Spelling on the forum

I know it's not for me to judge, but I've often wondered why there's such a lot of awful spelling on this forum. Since I don't want to put it down to lack of education on the part of some forumites, I can only lay the blame with sloppiness in the extreme. Totally unnecessary and a great pity, IMHO
Sorry for sounding like a schoolmarm.
Coby

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Re:Schoolmarm

Shouldn't that be school-ma'am

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good point, In the instruction book for the Sabres we have, they give instructions for altering the dipstick tube length depending on the angle of installation.


hope that helps

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