How many days to spare for Kornati Islands?

100e a night? They are having a giraffe.

I visited the Kornati for a total of 2 weeks during my 9 week Adriatic cruise from Pula to Albania and back.

I got my log out to be sure I remembered things correctly but it did show that I did not pay a penny to anchor anywhere.

I remember one small restaurant where we were the only customers. We asked for a menu to be told they had bread wine potatoes and fish. OK we said that is what we will have. An hour later we asked where was our dinner. He said the cook has gone to catch the fish.

BTW it was 1990.
 
100e a night? They are having a giraffe.

I visited the Kornati for a total of 2 weeks during my 9 week Adriatic cruise from Pula to Albania and back.

I got my log out to be sure I remembered things correctly but it did show that I did not pay a penny to anchor anywhere.

I remember one small restaurant where we were the only customers. We asked for a menu to be told they had bread wine potatoes and fish. OK we said that is what we will have. An hour later we asked where was our dinner. He said the cook has gone to catch the fish.

BTW it was 1990.

I think that was only possible at the good old days...

Now I budgeted for EUR 100 as an average for each night of my trip to Croatian Adriatic. It looks like there are no places left at Croatia where boaters can anchor free. Buoys cost around EUR 50, city ports around EUR 150 and marinas around EUR 250 per night (for the LOA of 22 meters).

I will be very very glad if someone comes up and says that I am wrong :)
 
100e a night? They are having a giraffe.

I visited the Kornati for a total of 2 weeks during my 9 week Adriatic cruise from Pula to Albania and back.

I got my log out to be sure I remembered things correctly but it did show that I did not pay a penny to anchor anywhere.

I remember one small restaurant where we were the only customers. We asked for a menu to be told they had bread wine potatoes and fish. OK we said that is what we will have. An hour later we asked where was our dinner. He said the cook has gone to catch the fish.

BTW it was 1990.

That was indeed a long time ago. In my experience the officials grab you as soon as you drop your hook now. On the plus side there is more than one restaurant in the Kornatis now and whilst the cuisine in Croatia is generally not cordon bleu, there are some good restaurants (like the 2 I've mentioned above) and many restaurants in the islands have their own quays where you can park overnight FOC and for me thats a big plus
 
I see several minor islands just a bit north to Murter. Are there nice places there to overnight at anchor?

Firstly be a bit careful approaching Murter from the north. IIRC there is a bit of a dog leg around a shallow reef. In fact pay attention to the charts in that area generally because again IIRC there are shallows to avoid. Yes there are anchorages in the lee of the islands on either side of the channel into Murter. Also if you go around the other side of Murter there is an anchorage, a small harbour and restaurants ashore
 
On your way to Losinj, there is a nice and well protected cove for a overnight anchorage on the island Dugi Otok, between Brbinj and Savar.
Around the island Kaprije are some very nice coves, in some of these coves is a restaurant, I can give names if you Like.
SE of the island Zlarin are some really nice anchorages (turquoise water) be carefull very challow on some spots
4 y ago, all anchorages above were FOC.
 
On your way to Losinj, there is a nice and well protected cove for a overnight anchorage on the island Dugi Otok, between Brbinj and Savar.
Around the island Kaprije are some very nice coves, in some of these coves is a restaurant, I can give names if you Like.
SE of the island Zlarin are some really nice anchorages (turquoise water) be carefull very challow on some spots
4 y ago, all anchorages above were FOC.

Likewise at the south end of Dugi Otok there is a long inlet (opposite the northern entrance to the Kornatis). If you go right to the top of the inlet there is a very sheltered anchorage behind 2 small islands. IIRC the bottom is mud so the holding is good but the water is not crystal clear as a result. As a safe anchorage though there are not many better in islands. There are supposed to be a couple of restaurants there but when we have visited they have been closed so take some provisions!
 
100e a night? They are having a giraffe.

I visited the Kornati for a total of 2 weeks during my 9 week Adriatic cruise from Pula to Albania and back.

I got my log out to be sure I remembered things correctly but it did show that I did not pay a penny to anchor anywhere.

I remember one small restaurant where we were the only customers. We asked for a menu to be told they had bread wine potatoes and fish. OK we said that is what we will have. An hour later we asked where was our dinner. He said the cook has gone to catch the fish.

BTW it was 1990.

We past lots of places and in big letters was “ meat and fish “ on the side of the building. What I came to appreciate was that was the entire menu !
 
We past lots of places and in big letters was “ meat and fish “ on the side of the building. What I came to appreciate was that was the entire menu !

I have had a boys trip on my boat every year for I dont know how long but it has become a standing joke amongst my mates since we were based in Croatia that nearly every time we went into a Croatian restaurant, there was no menu and the owner would come up to the table and shout "YOU WANNA MEEEET OR YOU WANNA FEEESH?":D
 
Likewise at the south end of Dugi Otok there is a long inlet (opposite the northern entrance to the Kornatis). If you go right to the top of the inlet there is a very sheltered anchorage behind 2 small islands. IIRC the bottom is mud so the holding is good but the water is not crystal clear as a result. As a safe anchorage though there are not many better in islands. There are supposed to be a couple of restaurants there but when we have visited they have been closed so take some provisions!

I think this is where you are mentioning:
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The two islands can be seen at the bottom of the bay.
 
SE of the island Zlarin are some really nice anchorages (turquoise water) be carefull very challow on some spots
4 y ago, all anchorages above were FOC.

Thanks for the detailed input. Especially that area (west of Sibenik) takes my most attention. Will visit for sure.
 
Thanks for the detailed input. Especially that area (west of Sibenik) takes my most attention. Will visit for sure.

when you do that, I can advice to include Skradin and Krka falls in your plans,
best planning for that is:
Book a berth on Skradin Townquay in advance (in the morning)
sail in to the Sibenik bay, towards Skradin late afternoon, its a nice and interesting but slow trip.
Skradin village is OK, but nothing special, go early to bed, and make sure you get on the first Visitors boat to the falls, leaving from the town quay at 8am iirc.
now you're the first to enjoy the glory of the Krka falls, and even get a swim,
after a walk and a swim (plan in two hours) you take the visitors boat back to Skradin,
and then you will apreciate why a local gave us this valuable advise to take that "First" boat
before or after lunch you can leave, and sail back to the Adriatic and enjoy another day around the islands,
I've stopped at Sibenic for fuel and buying a mobile data recharge, the town doesn't look attractive.
 
when you do that, I can advice to include Skradin and Krka falls in your plans,
best planning for that is:
Book a berth on Skradin Townquay in advance (in the morning)
sail in to the Sibenik bay, towards Skradin late afternoon, its a nice and interesting but slow trip.
Skradin village is OK, but nothing special, go early to bed, and make sure you get on the first Visitors boat to the falls, leaving from the town quay at 8am iirc.
now you're the first to enjoy the glory of the Krka falls, and even get a swim,
after a walk and a swim (plan in two hours) you take the visitors boat back to Skradin,
and then you will apreciate why a local gave us this valuable advise to take that "First" boat
before or after lunch you can leave, and sail back to the Adriatic and enjoy another day around the islands,
I've stopped at Sibenic for fuel and buying a mobile data recharge, the town doesn't look attractive.

That is very valuable information. Thanks a lot Bart.

Is it possible to book a berth just by calling or should we use an agent each time?
 
when you do that, I can advice to include Skradin and Krka falls in your plans,
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+1 Krka falls is a must do in Croatia. You used to be able to take your tender up to the falls but I think they've banned that now

Yes, Sibenik is not very interesting. However on the opposite (SW) side of the inlet facing Marina Mandalina is what I used to call the best fuel filling station in the world run by Lukoil. It has 8 pumps (at least when I was in Croatia) and there was never any queuing and the prices were competitive

General tip on fuelling in Croatia. Avoid filling up on Friday afternoon or Sat morning because the fuel stations, especially around Split, are rammed with charter boats filling up at the end of their charter weeks
 
Is it possible to book a berth just by calling or should we use an agent each time?

for that booking we used a agent, (at that time 40euro per booking),
we used them for the whole trip from Cavtat to Venice and back,
ofcause you don't need them for a anchorage, or a private booking,
but they insisted to start the bookings including the customs clearance in to HR (at 150e)
we didn't use them when going back from HR to MNE
I don't know if you can book that townquay yourself, usually its a problem to get the right guy for such a booking, they are not alway's in the pilotbook,
and also the language very often is a problem.
and even if you can, you're not shure that they keep your reservartion. (as opposed to bookings from agents)

but you know that town quay's are usually cheaper than marina's,
in Hvar fe we paid 120euro for the famous town quay
 
for that booking we used a agent, (at that time 40euro per booking),
we used them for the whole trip from Cavtat to Venice and back,
ofcause you don't need them for a anchorage, or a private booking,
but they insisted to start the bookings including the customs clearance in to HR (at 150e)
we didn't use them when going back from HR to MNE
I don't know if you can book that townquay yourself, usually its a problem to get the right guy for such a booking, they are not alway's in the pilotbook,
and also the language very often is a problem.
and even if you can, you're not shure that they keep your reservartion. (as opposed to bookings from agents)

but you know that town quay's are usually cheaper than marina's,
in Hvar fe we paid 120euro for the famous town quay

EUR 40 is reasonable when compared with the economy they bring against the marina prices, plus the peace of mind that you have a place kept ready for you at the town quay.

Do they really have the connections/power to secure places at all town quays throughout Croatian Adriatic? Do you remember the name of the agent?

Usually I do my own entry at Cavtat, it is easy. But port booking at popular places like Hvar is very valuable service.
 
+1 Krka falls is a must do in Croatia. You used to be able to take your tender up to the falls but I think they've banned that now

Yes, Sibenik is not very interesting. However on the opposite (SW) side of the inlet facing Marina Mandalina is what I used to call the best fuel filling station in the world run by Lukoil. It has 8 pumps (at least when I was in Croatia) and there was never any queuing and the prices were competitive

General tip on fuelling in Croatia. Avoid filling up on Friday afternoon or Sat morning because the fuel stations, especially around Split, are rammed with charter boats filling up at the end of their charter weeks

Thanks for the advice on fueling.

I expect to spend around 6000 liters at this trip. I will fill up tax-free before leaving Montenegro, I will then add up a minimum amount of 1000-1500 liters from Croatia. Price of tax-free fuel in Montenegro is EUR 0.70, whereas it is around EUR 1.20 tax-paid in Croatia.
 
EUR 40 is reasonable when compared with the economy they bring against the marina prices, plus the peace of mind that you have a place kept ready for you at the town quay.

Do they really have the connections/power to secure places at all town quays throughout Croatian Adriatic? Do you remember the name of the agent?

Usually I do my own entry at Cavtat, it is easy. But port booking at popular places like Hvar is very valuable service.

the price might have gone up since then,
The Agent was "Adriatic Services",
when you're next in Cavtat, asc Lari (they guy in the wheelchair for electric connection) to point you to Djuro, he's the agent for AS in Cavtat,
(both are good friends)
and asc Djuro to introduce you to Lovorco, the boss of the agency situated in Dubrovnic
I'll pm you some e-mails and phone numbers,

I have every possible electric conversion cable onboard, even to French Marchal plugs for Antibes and st tropez :)
in Croatia its mainly CEE, or nothing !
what do you have on the boat? we have 2 x Blue CEE32A
I have convertors from
M red CEE63A to 3 x F Blue 32A
M red CEE32A to 3 x F Blue 32A
and a few M Blue 16A to F Blue 32A

and I also have a LBOK convertor, but that's only for those who know how to use it, lets not go in to that :o
 
the price might have gone up since then,
The Agent was "Adriatic Services",
when you're next in Cavtat, asc Lari (they guy in the wheelchair for electric connection) to point you to Djuro, he's the agent for AS in Cavtat,
(both are good friends)
and asc Djuro to introduce you to Lovorco, the boss of the agency situated in Dubrovnic
I'll pm you some e-mails and phone numbers,

I have every possible electric conversion cable onboard, even to French Marchal plugs for Antibes and st tropez :)
in Croatia its mainly CEE, or nothing !
what do you have on the boat? we have 2 x Blue CEE32A
I have convertors from
M red CEE63A to 3 x F Blue 32A
M red CEE32A to 3 x F Blue 32A
and a few M Blue 16A to F Blue 32A

and I also have a LBOK convertor, but that's only for those who know how to use it, lets not go in to that :o

All details received on PM. Thanks a lot. I will contact AS in advance.

Oh yes! I also have one Marchal plug onboard, from my stay at Port Vauban. I remember that I had paid a ridiculously high price for that and my boat had stayed there only for one month. I still keep it on board but never had seen necessity for that again unfortunately.

I have all adapters from 16A to 63A. In Croatia the small ports usually have only 16A, which is OK for me as we don't switch on the AC that much. I just need to be careful that the hob and the water heater should not operate at the same time. Usually I turn off the water heater in order to avoid unwanted shut-downs.

I have 4x250W solar panels, which feed my batteries. Life is much easier for me on boat since I installed them. Generator hours dropped drastically and I don't need to check the battery level every now and then.
 
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