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I was listening to a debate about "Statutory leave for new farthers" today. The split was between those that couldn't afford to take HMG's £100 per week to stay at home bonding with the sprog and those who'd had generous employers pay them their wages while they did the sprog bonding.

I was surprised that nobody appeared to be able to take the couple of weeks off out of their savings. Surely if you want to do the sprog stroking stuff badly enough you'd fund it yourself. After all kids do give a bit of warning that they're coming don't they?

HMG seems to be relying on employers to fund their pipedreams again.

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Remember, Sprogs are not just for Christmas!

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I'm just waiting for the fatherhood scam.

One baby with half a dozen different men claiming fatherhood and getting time off from different employers.

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Much as I loved my 2 kids, from memory I was kind of glad to get away out to work away from the smell and noise. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif


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In my day if you wanted the time off, you took it as part of your annual leave. Seemed to work ok cos the arrival of the kids meant I didn't have any money to pay for a holiday anyway.

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Babies are expensive enough without loosing salary as well /forums/images/icons/frown.gif

I think it's a shame, given how much the mother can get in maternity pay (if she works), that they are so stingy on the poor dad.

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Remember the mother also only gets about 90 quid a week aswell, only public sector and large companies give full pay. The Satutory maternity pay is 6 weeks at 90% Basic salary and the remainder of 6 months at 90 quid a week.
I'm fortunate that I work for a major multi-national company and I get 2 weeks on full pay for paternity leave, and women get 1 year on full pay for maternity leave - but that is the exception, not the rule.
Not everone is as fortunate as us, many people live from hand to mouth and even a couple of weeks of reduced salary, especially at the very point where the expenditure sudenly goes through the roof can be critical for many.
This is all at the front of my mind at the mo, as our first is due in April. /forums/images/icons/shocked.gif

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Re:New farters?

Why should they get anything?I have been farting for years and dont look for handouts from anyone./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Women who work for my company get 18 weeks at 100% salary, then a further 8 weeks at a reduced rate - then they can take a further 26 weeks but without any pay - before being guaranteed an equivalent job back.

The men get 2 weeks at full salary. Hardly fair is it /forums/images/icons/frown.gif

Good luck with the first, ours will be 2 about the time yours is expected. Even though I earn above average I would be reluctant to forgo much income when entering such uncharted territory. If/when we have number 2 I think I would still stick with the 2 weeks.



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Funny, I was just talking to one of my managers today .... female, single, been with us 5 years and has had to cope with SEVEN maternity leaves and fully expects another 3/4 in next few years. You should hear her opinion on 'maternity' leave!!! How do you think she should be compensated for all this time of extra work? From the company or ?????????
After all this time off they also wonder why they're 'under represented' at board level!!! I wonder if anyone has looked to see how many males are represented at board level after having sabaticals??
There, that should stir it up!!

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It most cases though the men haven't given birth. Nor are they usually doing much on the breast feeding front.
I don't think that fairness has anything to do with it. Is it fair that the other workers have to take on the extra workload because someone has fathered a child?

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"........has had to cope with SEVEN maternity leaves and fully expects another 3/4 in next few years"

Blimey......her husband must have GM sperm!

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Yer rite, it could be read that way! However she's single and doesn't want any either .... and no she's not ... and I haven't!

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Err - the implication being that the other worker's won't miss the mother being away for 6 months /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

I think if you ask most new mothers they would like the father around for as much as possible after the birth. If you ask most new fathers they are probably glad to get back to work as soon as possible....

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<<<Surely if you want to do the sprog stroking stuff badly enough you'd fund it yourself.>>>

That is how I see it too.

Big hidden cost to the employee wanting to take advantage of all these social engineering things at the disadvantage of his/her employer. Having done alot of recruiting for clients there is no way a candidate will be put forward who is likely to be wanting maternity leave, paid, etc anytime soon - goes down the pile of applications unless an absolutely outstanding candidate. Same with ethnic minorities with a reputation for complaining about their lot unless the candidate is known personally (which is really unfortunate for many of the ones who are not).

PC police will probably be knocking on my door soon, but that is the way it is, usually unspoken because you are not allowed to say it. Sure to upset a few of the "my employer and the government have to look after me" set but recruiting is a very conservative business if one wants to be successful at it.

John

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