How full is your Marina?

AdeOlly said:
Quite so; like every other business they need to sharpen their cost management.

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It is a business that requires economies of scale. The staffing requirements are relatively disconnected from the number of boats, but the income is directly proportional to the number of berth holders. The same is pretty much true for plant - one crane is enough to service the needs of a good couple of hundred berth holders.
 
maby said:
I doubt that anyone is paying less than £2k per annum for their mooring and the average is probably around £3k - that's a million in mooring fees before you begin to factor in boatyard services and visitors fees - should not be too hard to turn a useful profit...
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I could imagine they get hit by some large bills too, though. Environment, 'elf and safety,slipway rebuild, new pontoons etc etc.
Was it Bembridge that got sold recently-for not alot .. something doesnt suggest it is easy pickings.
 
Talulah said:
For availability at Premier Marinas see the link below.
http://www.premiermarinas.com/pages/berth_availability

There certainly appears to be a lot of availability at Brighton.
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very interesting, however just looking firstly at Brighton, if the website is correct and they do indeed have 1600 berths there, having just 49 available shows they are at 97% capacity... which I would say is remarkable.... almost unbelievable...?
 
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gjgm said:
I could imagine they get hit by some large bills too, though. Environment, 'elf and safety,slipway rebuild, new pontoons etc etc.
Was it Bembridge that got sold recently-for not alot .. something doesnt suggest it is easy pickings.
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I think quality counts for a lot - people that have spent a couple of hundred grand (or more) on a boat will want excellent facilities, not the run down mud berths and shabby toilet blocks that seem to be common in a lot of the small independent marinas.
 
maby said:
I think quality counts for a lot - people that have spent a couple of hundred grand (or more) on a boat will want excellent facilities, not the run down mud berths and shabby toilet blocks that seem to be common in a lot of the small independent marinas.
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but not everyone.... I am constantly amazed at the number of very expensive boats on Hamble River moorings which offer zero facilities....

...(but certainly not for me! give me a nice marina anyday!)
 
Firefly625 said:
very interesting, however just looking firstly at Brighton, if the website is correct and they do indeed have 1600 berths there, having just 49 available shows they are at 97% capacity... which I would say is remarkable.... almost unbelievable...?
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Agreed. I wonder though how many of the 1600 berths are on annual contracts?
I've no idea but obviously that makes a big differance to the percentile.
 
Firefly625 said:
very interesting, however just looking firstly at Brighton, if the website is correct and they do indeed have 1600 berths there, having just 49 available shows they are at 97% capacity... with I would say is remarkable.... almost unbelievable...?
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Yep, 1600 berhs at Brighton. I reckon the availability is probably not too far off the mark; it always looks all but full when I'm down there, esp mid-week there are not many gaps evident.
 
maby said:
I think quality counts for a lot - people that have spent a couple of hundred grand (or more) on a boat will want excellent facilities, not the run down mud berths and shabby toilet blocks that seem to be common in a lot of the small independent marinas.
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I think that you may be right, but not all the time.

I am always surprised to see some very expensive yachts in the type of marina you describe above. Some large yacht owners like a low-priced mooring too!

Also, owners with larger boats often use their own toilets and showers so oddly, the quality of the showers etc is more important to the smaller boat owners.

Not sure about the mud berths though.

Cheers

Garold
 
Garold said:
I think that you may be right, but not all the time.

I am always surprised to see some very expensive yachts in the type of marina you describe above. Some large yacht owners like a low-priced mooring too!

Also, owners with larger boats often use their own toilets and showers so oddly, the quality of the showers etc is more important to the smaller boat owners.

Not sure about the mud berths though.

Cheers

Garold
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very true. I suppose if you have a genset, heating & lots of space and like the peace of a river mooring then it is understandable... we are certainly too small for that comfortable independence...:(
 
Firefly625 said:
but not everyone.... I am constantly amazed at the number of very expensive boats on Hamble River moorings which offer zero facilities....

...(but certainly not for me! give me a nice marina anyday!)
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Each to their own. We are on a trot mooring because we don't want to be in a marina and have all the facilities on board we want/need. When we were marina based I didn't use the facilities there on any occasion in 2years.
And we have the best views on the Dart, far better than any marina.
 
OAF said:
How do you cope when you are out cruising? Do you always overnight at a mooring with facilities?
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There's a big difference between a couple of nights at anchor and permament residence on a trot buoy. Our boat is self sufficient for a couple of days, but I would like to have a marina berth available with all the trimmings to refuel, fill up the water tanks, have a proper shower (as opposed to a quick hose down sitting on the loo), shorepower to charge the batteries - all those good things!
 
maby said:
There's a big difference between a couple of nights at anchor and permament residence on a trot buoy. Our boat is self sufficient for a couple of days, but I would like to have a marina berth available with all the trimmings to refuel, fill up the water tanks, have a proper shower (as opposed to a quick hose down sitting on the loo), shorepower to charge the batteries - all those good things!
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Granted, but paying a premium for posh loos etc seems a little extravagant or are the marinas just taking the p155, how often do you stay on the marina berth versus out cruising? I have
A boat to go out cruising, I don't often stay on the berth while im in residence, I know I prefer to pay 3k a year less for a mooring and put that towards fuel and put up with slightly lower standards of facilities, we still get water on pontoons and electricity, as some one else said, yer pays yer money ...............
 
OAF said:
Granted, but paying a premium for posh loos etc seems a little extravagant or are the marinas just taking the p155, how often do you stay on the marina berth versus out cruising? I have
A boat to go out cruising, I don't often stay on the berth while im in residence, I know I prefer to pay 3k a year less for a mooring and put that towards fuel and put up with slightly lower standards of facilities, we still get water on pontoons and electricity, as some one else said, yer pays yer money ...............
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Ah, that's the difference - we spend far more time in the marina than we do out cruising - my wife and I are both working in the boat today writing bids. She was relaxing over the weekend, but I spent most of it writing. It's our seaside flat that goes out when work permits!
 
Agreed.. for work reasons I use the boat at weekends only and then on holiday, but I need somewhere to park it, and since that is always going to be my start and end point I have some demands as to what I want.
I agree though that I am paying a fortune to have the boat sitting unused for most of the week.
In fact it is even worse than that, as I take it out of the water for probably 4-5 months of the year.
If you can find a nice marina where I only pay for those days I use my boat, please let me know !
 
My marina is packed

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so is my mates

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