How does your marina measure the length for fee's?

[jimg]

I understand that most if not all marinas charge for length overall on a "box" system.

However that seems reasonable when we are talking about paying for a bathing platform, etc on a larger boat where it is a relatively small percentage.

But when you are talking about outboard engined small boats, it can make a huge difference where an outboard is left raised.

It is then possible to be paying a 20% premium for that air space!

My question is does your marina apply a different policy for small outboard engined runabouts?

 

[Firefly625]

I understand that most if not all marinas charge for length overall on a "box" system.

However that seems reasonable when we are talking about paying for a bathing platform, etc on a larger boat where it is a relatively small percentage.

But when you are talking about outboard engined small boats, it can make a huge difference where an outboard is left raised.

It is then possible to be paying a 20% premium for that air space!

My question is does your marina apply a different policy for small outboard engined runabouts?

I have been having discussions with my marina about boat length, ours was measured at 8.2m and rates increase from 8m+ so I was interested to know whether that was an accurate measurement. So they showed me how they measured and its a tape measure along the pontoon with one of the chaps looking at the bow and one at the stern saying, yup that's about right... it is not very scientific. They said with larger Mobos especially it is even more hit and miss as they cannot measure from the pontoon on most occasions as the boat overhangs so they just pull the measure over the boat and then take off "a bit" for the tape not being in a straight line.... the only way to measure with accuracy is when on the hard... which they did with mine a few weeks back and its quite a bit more than 8.2...

my suggestion is be there when they measure, have a laugh with them,, make then a cuppa and you may find your overhang is not an issue...

 

[volvopaul]

Lucky for us im charged for what ive told the marina, boat says Princess 410 so its 41ft, as we are on forward/aft mooring on a pontoon in the river its not a finger berth so mooring up with 3ft either end when the tide is running and the wind is blowing can be interesting, though it can also help when leaving or entering your berth, its a very friendly yard but only has 1 toilet and shower, car parking is minimal but its thousands less than the other side of the bridge.

What annoys me is marinas that come out with the tape measure when you arrive and do charge you for thin air, which give the same facilities the same side the bridge.

I was once a berth holder at LYH the boat was 12.4m the pontoon 10 which meant we could only moor stern to, when I complained they said they only had to provide a pontoon 75% of the boats charged length, so I was paying for fresh air, the fresh air the bow of the boat stuck out into the fairway! I didnt stick it for long.

It depends where you are and how amicable the manager or owner is, id say that another foot of outboard raised is hardly a case for extra charges, but then again in this climate im sure there out for all they can get!

 

[Garold]

We've just been remeasured and our fees have increased significantly because we have now gone up into the next size band and it's a bit more per metre too.

I've just asked my boat maint. guy to look at removing any bits that make the boat longer than its manufactured length but I may just be fighting the inevitable.

Unfortunately marinas are in the business of selling space and they are perfectly entitled to measure the 'full' length of their customers' boats, and when they do, the space they take is often a bit more than the manufactured length.

A friend of mine fitted 'retractable' davits just for the eventuality of being measured, and I laughed when he told me why he'd chosen these particular davits. I don't laugh now.

Cheers

Garold

 

[Spi D]

Our berths are between poles, measured and priced per sq. meter.

Rule is that the berth must be at least 1 m longer than boat LOA and wide enough for the boat to enter with fenders out. Long/narrow or short/wide boats may have to pay for unwanted space.

The price is £ 755 per annum for my 32' that is 11' 3" wide.

 

[jimg]

Our berths are between poles, measured and priced per sq. meter.

Rule is that the berth must be at least 1 m longer than boat LOA and wide enough for the boat to enter with fenders out. Long/narrow or short/wide boats may have to pay for unwanted space.

The price is £ 755 per annum for my 32' that is 11' 3" wide.

I guess I will have to live with paying £372 for an outboard projecting by 0.7 metres

 

[longjohnsilver]

I guess I will have to live with paying £372 for an outboard projecting by 0.7 metres

Hi Jim, I hear the new owners of DH are very keen on getting as much as they possibly can, looks like the prices are set to rise significantly with no blind eyes being turned...........
Not ideal, but how about leaving the engine down and accepting the fact that you'll have to clean it every now and again and change the anode? Or maybe look at other alternatives, I'm just about to get a mooring in Hillhead creek for just over £100 for the year, not perfect but pretty good value (no, it's not for Eos!!).

 

[aquatom]

It seems that mobos are also getting wider now. It's becoming a problem in the med as when you leave your berth the boats either side close in, sometimes leaving you with a gap half the width of your boat.

 

[SteveE]

How about you get it measured with the engine in the water, then there after you raise it, the worst that can happen is you have to leave it in the water and change anodes more regularly.. A couple of anodes probably cheaper than the extra length.

 

[Momac]

Have the measurement taken with the outboard engine lowered. This will fix the fee for your boat. If you agree and pay you will have a contract.

I can't imagine marinas go around re-measuring boats at their berths unless someone adds something obvious like davits or a dinghy .

 

[HermannLenz]

Payment in the marina.

Hallo ,

in my Yacht - club : e.g. length = 8,50 m , the full meters = 9 m + 1m = 10 m to pay !
more than 10 m : e.g. 10,40 m , full meters = 11 m + 1,5 m = 12,5 m to pay.
The payment for each meter is not depending on the length. 25 € per meter berth , additional 7,50 € per meter for maintinance of the pier , 20€ annual for light and water , 30cts per kWh electrical energie and 100 € annual for membership. 420 € for the winter place in a comfortable shelter .