How do you use Patio Magic - dilution, rinse, scrub etc?

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Countless threads on here extoll the virtues of Patio Magic so I went out and bought some; needless to say it doesn't tell you how to clean spray hoods and ropes with it!

So:-

Do you dilute it?
Do you thoroughly wet the item or just spray it on
Do you need to scrub as well
Do you wash (e.g. ropes) before or after application or not at all
Do you rinse off afterwards
Instructions say it takes several days to work on a patio - do you need to keep it from drying out?

Any other hints and tips>
 
I too have recently purchased Patio Magic so am in the same situation and very interested in the replies particularly wrt spray hood.. Thanks for the thread.
 
I used some last year, using the dilution that my neighbour in the marina had used. Sprayed it on using a garden insecticide sprayer and diluted, I think, 3 parts water to 1 part patio magic. Left to dry for 48 hours and then scrubbed / washed off. The result was OK and a big improvement on what it had been but still not perfect.
At SIBS last year I arranged for Arun Sails to take my sails, spray hood and cockpit enclosure for valeting and the covers to be reproofed. Certainly more expensive than patio magic but the result is fantastic. They did some minor repairs to both sails, restitched parts of the spray hood and enclosure, put new clips into the spray hood as required and it all looks as good as new. Definitely money well spent and the way I will do it in future.
 
For ropes:

Make sure SWMBO is out for a couple of hours.

Washing machine on a cool setting. Set the wash to rinse and hold. Whereas you may add soft rinse for the rinse cycle then use a cupful of Milton steriliser instead. Let the Milton solution work for an hour or so and then lightly spin.
 
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I run all the ropes through the machine, rapid wash cycle, only 30 deg, good spin out. Then I coil them up neatly and dry them. Once they are dry I give them a 5 min soak in a drum of about 8:1 patio magic then leave them hung up to drip dry.

The instructions say that patio magic should be applied to dry surfaces, and not applied if there is a chance of getting wet again soon etc etc.

I don't understand why anyone would do the process the other way round which would essentially wash the patio magic out of the ropes... You want to retain it in the fibres so that it continues to prevent the growth of algae etc in the season ahead don't you?

Anyway, that's what I do and I get no green staining on my lines at all, sometimes it will last for 2 seasons before it starts to creep back.
 
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Mix 4 parts water to 1 patio magic. Or more concentrated if very green. Apply to dry surfaces with no rain forecast. Then just leave it. Do not scrub nor wash off. There will be a noticible effect the next day and it will improve with time. I use it once a year even if no sign of green.
 
foeu said:
Mix 4 parts water to 1 patio magic. Or more concentrated if very green. Apply to dry surfaces with no rain forecast. Then just leave it. Do not scrub nor wash off. There will be a noticible effect the next day and it will improve with time. I use it once a year even if no sign of green.
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Same here. Apply with a brush so it goes where you want it.
 
foeu said:
Mix 4 parts water to 1 patio magic. Or more concentrated if very green. Apply to dry surfaces with no rain forecast. Then just leave it. Do not scrub nor wash off. There will be a noticible effect the next day and it will improve with time. I use it once a year even if no sign of green.
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For Cornwall that is indeed a miracle product
 
foeu said:
Mix 4 parts water to 1 patio magic. Or more concentrated if very green. Apply to dry surfaces with no rain forecast. Then just leave it. Do not scrub nor wash off. There will be a noticible effect the next day and it will improve with time. I use it once a year even if no sign of green.
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Me too, Patio Magic on deck, Wessex Teak Cleaner on wood,Washing machine for all lines, 30c.

Good tip about adding Patio Magic after drying, will try that.
 
foeu said:
Mix 4 parts water to 1 patio magic. Or more concentrated if very green. Apply to dry surfaces with no rain forecast. Then just leave it. Do not scrub nor wash off. There will be a noticible effect the next day and it will improve with time. I use it once a year even if no sign of green.
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I'll second that - though I do tend to use it diluted 50-50 pretty much all the time.

Apply with a soft brush rather than spraying - it is quite toxic to marine life and you really don't want to dump any more than you have to into the marina. You certainly don't want to apply it if there is rain forecast in the next few days but, equally, if you apply it to teak decking or canvas in very hot weather, it can dry out before it has had a chance to soak deep into the surface - I generally mist the surface with a little water from a plant spray bottle the next day (or two) to moisten it again and give it a chance to really get into the wood or canvas.
 
Patio magic kills mould, low temperature washing may not.

My regime is to treat all the teak with patio magic, leave to work it's magic for a week and then wash with very soft brush and detergent to remove non mould deposits, leave to dry and then reapply patio magic in the hope of a prophylactic affect.

Dilution about 1/4, PM/water. Applied with distemper brush.

Same detail for ropes, and canvas.

Folkestone fixings do a mould cleaner with the same active ingredient and concentration at about a third of the price of PM.
 
I mix according to the label and apply using a watering can and spray bar together with soft brush to move it around.
Don't rinse off - just leave it to soak in and decks looks so much better after a few days.

Will rinse decks properly once we launch and then if feeling kind will treat with something like Wessex.

Canvas works - basically the same - sprinkle on lightly, concentrating on any areas where water can pool.

Ropes - our washing machine has a very long ( 3 hours??) slow cool wash. just do them in there with non bio washing stuff designed for silk and wool as it was the gentlest I could find. donl;t boterh with patio magic for those but maybe should.
 
jac said:
I mix according to the label and apply using a watering can and spray bar together with soft brush to move it around.
Don't rinse off - just leave it to soak in and decks looks so much better after a few days.

Will rinse decks properly once we launch and then if feeling kind will treat with something like Wessex.

Canvas works - basically the same - sprinkle on lightly, concentrating on any areas where water can pool.

Ropes - our washing machine has a very long ( 3 hours??) slow cool wash. just do them in there with non bio washing stuff designed for silk and wool as it was the gentlest I could find. donl;t boterh with patio magic for those but maybe should.
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You had me worried for a minute there till I saw your second paragraph - obviously if you have it out in the boatyard you can be a bit more cavalier about how you apply it!
 
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You had me worried for a minute there till I saw your second paragraph - obviously if you have it out in the boatyard you can be a bit more cavalier about how you apply it!
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With a teak deck though it all soaks in anyway. the water was a bit green so you could see where the run off went and whilst a few drops went into scuppers there was no more than a couple of drips that went down the hull

The advantage of not using a spray is that even in very light winds, some was blown downwind and so into the environment. the stream from a watering can is much heavier and can be better directed to avoid that.
 
we have a brand new spray hood/cockpit tent that was put up last summer. We liveaboard (so it's prone to steam and condensation) and come November ish we started to get grey fluffy mould on the inside. After taking advice from the sailmaker who made the tent, I mixed Patio Magic 5:1 in a spray bottle and liberally applied and just left it. Have not had a glimmer of reappearance since. I also treated manky old spray hood from older boat, that's ok too. I washed it first in machine which didn't help much, but then the patio magic worked it's magic.
 
After seeing good results on my mates sails I have just tried this stuff Wet and Forget for the first time http://www.marinechandlery.com/wet-forget-mould-lichen-algae-remover-5l

Not cheap but you gets 5 litre and you can dilute it up to 5:1. I have just cleaned my cockpit cover with a dilution of 4:1 to remove algae and usual dirt and quite impressed.

With this stuff you do nothing, you just spray it onto dry material and just leave it with no washing off after!

Only question is the instructions do not say if you need to re-proof covers after???

However I wonder if its all the same stuff :)
 
Caer Urfa said:
Only question is the instructions do not say if you need to re-proof covers after???

However I wonder if its all the same stuff :)
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PM doesn't seem to do anything to waterproofing.

Examination of label will confirm whether they are the same thing.

Some mould killers are bleach based which I suspect will not be good for fabrics or line.
 
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