How do the French get away with it

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After carefully planning the return of my furler from italy and getting tickets to fly it the final leg to Turkey with at least 2 days to spare I now find the french strike has delayed everything (putting it politley)and the furler arrives 2 days late with just enough time for me to travel to luton and back to pick it up from the depot instead of having it delivered and relaxing on the last day doing other things. They really P*** me off
 
Oh dear...Oh dear.....Oh dear!

Oh deary, deary me!

Weeeeeell, never mind eh. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I fully sympathise.

You would have thought that the intellectual weight of the commission would have put its shoulder to EU legislation guaranteeing free passage, without hindrance, etc throughout the new reich. On pain of hefy fines on each country providing the hindrance (or in France's case, just standing by sipping absinthe until each outburst by the peasants evaporates)

More progressive, I feel, than worrying whether sheep have tags in their ears (the current "essential ordinance" in Brussels) Give me strength!

PWG
 
Hmm I used to live in France so I have been caught up in lots of strikes, riots and disputes like this and they are nothing short of narrow-minded and fool-hardy.

I admire their determination to stick to their roots et al but then one has to move on at some point. There are some fish, just not in the areas their boats can go so rather than modernising, going further a field and actually catching some fish they blockade the ports and cause at the least a nuissance to everyone. Lets not forget the tactics used by some last summer when they blockaded sailing ports firing flares etc into yachts that tried to break out!

Sorry but I find it hard to agree with those who think that such illegal action is ok for them (what about us?) I am sure if we blockaded their ports there would be a whole world of poo.....
 
Crap exchange rate, likelihood there will be further French port problems this year, yep, its almost certain, West Country here we come this year!
 
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Sorry but I find it hard to agree with those who think that such illegal action is ok for them (what about us?) I am sure if we blockaded their ports there would be a whole world of poo.....

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What makes you think their action is illegal? (blocking a port, not the flares incident).

Pete
 
French politicians govern only by consent of the people. UK politician govern in spite of the people and when necessary use the police to enforce their political wishes (miners strike G20talks).

My boss is French and lived in UK for 30 yrs and said "I thought of myself as more English now until the London Congestion Charge. The English moaned about it but did nothing - In France the people would have protested and stopped it - that is when I realised i was still French!"

At I get older I find I am admiring the French with their civic pride more and more.
 
Nothing to do with civic pride; it's the heritage of bloody revolution. If you don't get what you want you create mayhem. Personally, I don't want to live in that sort of place. Mind you, I wouldn't mind getting rid of our incompetent, dishonest government in a very french manner!
 
Their argument is with their government and maybe with the EEC as well. However the action they're taking is against ordinary people against whom they have no gripe, and who couldn't help them in any case.

I'd have more respect if they directed their actions at their adversaries, not at innocent passers-by who are an easier target.
 
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Nothing to do with civic pride; it's the heritage of bloody revolution. If you don't get what you want you create mayhem. Personally, I don't want to live in that sort of place. Mind you, I wouldn't mind getting rid of our incompetent, dishonest government in a very french manner!

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You are living in that kind of place: it's just that the English lopped heads of their monarchs and, several times, of their revolutionaries a few hundred years earlier.
 
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Their argument is with their government and maybe with the EEC as well. However the action they're taking is against ordinary people against whom they have no gripe, and who couldn't help them in any case.

I'd have more respect if they directed their actions at their adversaries, not at innocent passers-by who are an easier target.

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They are protesting in their own country, about issues that concern them, if you don't like it don't go there, I am quite certain that you wont be missed! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Q - I admire the Cheese-eating-surrender-Monkeys for the way they stand up to what they see as unfairness.

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Almost gallic in its contradictory spirit!

I see the current pensions hole in the UK as unfairness, but have I strung a rope across my marina entrance?

The French fishermen are demanding the right to land whatever fish they catch - ie to carry on as they were - read the small print. It's not their fish, its EU's fish stocks and they have signed up to this; indeed they were and are protagonists for the Euro grind we all have to live in. Why should the French opt out when it doesn't suit them?

When the UK opts out of EU legislation it does it by agreement. Then the French immediately accuse us of being non-communitaire and UK's pathetic politicians cave in, of course...

Is there any other reading of the situation that bears honest examination?

PWG
 
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The French fishermen are demanding the right to land whatever fish they catch

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No there not. They are saying we want to make a living either more fish or compensation.

They have potested and will get compensation.

In the UK we just can't get our heads round the idea that if something causes you loss and you protest to get compensation - you will get it - because that the French way.

The UK way is for GB or whoever is PM to tell us like daddy now go away children and play with your toys and leave ripping you off financially to us professional politicians - and we let them!!
 
French fisherman have already cornered more than the fair share of, for instance, Cod, by overstating catches in the past to enhance their track record, with the connivance of the authorities. If an English fisherman tried that, apart from being jumped on by DEFRA (Deaf Ear to Fishermen and Ruinous to Agriculture), they would end up explaining to a tax inspector that they had not really landed this undeclared income. The french were pleased enough to get all British fish stocks under the EU umbrella in 1973 when the document was slid under Ted Heath's eager pen. Now we're all, so to speak, in the same boat.
 
Somebody asked me about this recently. I said " The french have a system like the Swiss. In Switzerland every major item goes to a referendam." Er, but it isn't like that in France? " Yes it is, if the gov pass a law that is agreeable.OK. If not agreeable, get out on the streets and the gov. backs down." Same effect.
They are kidnapping CEOs and holding them as a protest against job losses ( usually not the fault of the CEO) If you tried that in the USA, it would be a Federal offence and carry a life sentence. The police do not get involved.
There is a definately Marxist trend involved with the union guys. They don't agree that it is a discredited ideal, it would leave them without a cause.
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I love the French attitude. The whole point of France is for the benefit of the French people.

The whole point of England is as a place to do business. "A nation of shopkeepers" really was an insult, no matter the spin then applied.

But maybe it is my Norman roots speaking? or my a#se /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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