How can I fix vertical pole to a stanchion temporarily?

[tudorsailor]

I would like to make a sun shade to go over the boom. However at the aft end I have a single back stay which is not ideal for attaching the shade. I wondered if I could clip two vertical tent poles to stanchions to support the shade. However I cannot find a suitable clip. I think I need a smaller version of the clip that holds the inverted light for the horseshoe buoy, ie screwed onto the stanchion but with a clip for my tent pole.

Can anyone point me to a site that sells this kind of thing???

Thanks

Tudorsailor

 

[Poignard]

If you want a cheap and simple solution, you could buy 8 of these and fasten them together in pairs using s/s nuts and screws. They are for 25mm pipe, which your pulpit is probably made from. If your tentpoles are different diameter you may be able to get these clips in a size to suit.

http://www.tfmsuperstore.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2787

 

[Talulah]

I would like to make a sun shade to go over the boom. However at the aft end I have a single back stay which is not ideal for attaching the shade. I wondered if I could clip two vertical tent poles to stanchions to support the shade. However I cannot find a suitable clip. I think I need a smaller version of the clip that holds the inverted light for the horseshoe buoy, ie screwed onto the stanchion but with a clip for my tent pole.

Can anyone point me to a site that sells this kind of thing???

Thanks

Tudorsailor

If you were leaving the posts in place for a while you could just use hose clips around the stanchion and post.

Alternatively if you didn't nead the posts to be vertical you could attach some of these to your stanchions.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tee-Piece...tEquipment_Accessories_SM&hash=item4a9c049f08

 

[prv]

I was going to suggest a couple of simple lashings with thin cord, but that would be a little inconvenient if you were setting them up every day. If they're staying in place as Talulah suggests, though, then surely this is the simplest, cheapest and most flexible option? Various things are held onto my boat with lashings.

Pete

 

[Deleted member 36384]

An Alternative To Vertical Poles

I would like to make a sun shade to go over the boom. However at the aft end I have a single back stay which is not ideal for attaching the shade. ......

tudorsailor I have seen a very simple design which might interest you and does away with poles on the stanchions / pushpit.

The sunshade is made from a section of material shaped for the taper of hull; wide at the front, narrow at the back. The front and back edges are stiffened with horizontal poles fed through simple sleeves sewn into the edges. The poles are accessible via cutaways at the mid point in the sleeves and the end points. The front pole is laid across the boom (athwart ships) and the aft pole is attached to the back stay orientated horizontally. The ends of the poles are then tied with stays down to deck level, typically at stanchion bases.

The arrangement is very easy to erect and is quite stiff when properly stayed such that the shade is stretched fore and aft.

Regards,

BlowingOldBoots

 

[bert49uk]

I would just use cable ties

 

[ghostlymoron]

What about a pipe clip

http://www.screwfix.com/p/clip-fix-...s-_-Clip-Fix Pipe Clips RC 24-25mm Pack of 50

 

[Leonidas]

tudorsailor I have seen a very simple design which might interest you and does away with poles on the stanchions / pushpit.

. The front pole is laid across the boom (athwart ships) and the aft pole is attached to the back stay orientated horizontally. The ends of the poles are then tied with stays down to deck level, typically at stanchion bases.

The arrangement is very easy to erect and is quite stiff when properly stayed such that the shade is stretched fore and aft.

Regards,

BlowingOldBoots

Exactly. This is what I use except that the forward pole is tied up at the aft lower shrouds and above the boom level. It is also customary to use a redundant uphaul tied up at a point approx at the middle length of the center line of the tent to support it and give some height ,thus allowing also for some ventilation.
I would suggest that in addirion to the ends you also tie down at middle length just to keep it steady against the odd gust of wind. Some advice on the colour. Avoid dark colours; go for light shades, it can get really hot during a windless summer day

 

[tudorsailor]

Poles fore and aft seems good. So the next question is what do you use for the poles. Tent rods are very springy so maybe something else?

Thanks for all the input

TudorSailor

 

[vyv_cox]

Exactly. This is what I use except that the forward pole is tied up at the aft lower shrouds and above the boom level. It is also customary to use a redundant uphaul tied up at a point approx at the middle length of the center line of the tent to support it and give some height ,thus allowing also for some ventilation.
I would suggest that in addirion to the ends you also tie down at middle length just to keep it steady against the odd gust of wind. Some advice on the colour. Avoid dark colours; go for light shades, it can get really hot during a windless summer day

Pretty similar to mine also. I currently use three horizontal poles, will increase to four to make a longer awning. The poles are 12 mm fibreglass tent poles, just under 3 metres long. The ends of the forward one attach to the upper and lower shrouds, the centre one is attached to guardwires and to a bridle hauled by the main halyard. Both of these lie on the boom. The aft one lies across the bimini, attached at its ends to guardwires and to the aft of the bimini frame. If the bimini was not available it would be possible to haul the centre upwards with a halyard, preferably attach and sliding on the backstay.

Here's an excellent alternative method that I photographed in Olbia. It was blowing around F6 at the time and the awning didn't move. No poles at all, simply tied between shrouds and halyards.

 

[Leonidas]

Poles fore and aft seems good. So the next question is what do you use for the poles. Tent rods are very springy so maybe something else?

Thanks for all the input

TudorSailor

It will depend on the beam of your boat. I use some old extendable aluminium boat hook poles which I can retract when not in use and stow away. Others use approx 40mm diameter wooden poles.

 

[tudorsailor]

KISS That looks ideal. I would have to have a split so that the awning can go around the topping lift, but otherwise I think I will get something like this run up.

Wonderful

TudorSailor

 

[Deleted member 36384]

KISS That looks ideal. I would have to have a split so that the awning can go around the topping lift, but otherwise I think I will get something like this run up.

Wonderful

TudorSailor

Instead of a split in the shade, lash a hook on a lanyard tied to the back stay and hang the boom from that.

 

[maby]

flag pole mounts?

 

[PetiteFleur]

To add a temporary pole to a stanchion, why not cable tie a length of tubing to the stanchion? Cheap plastic piping as used for wastepipes, 1¼" or 1½" diameter or better still stainless tubing of the correct bore.

 

[vyv_cox]

KISS That looks ideal. I would have to have a split so that the awning can go around the topping lift, but otherwise I think I will get something like this run up.

Wonderful

TudorSailor

The disadvantage with that system is that it remains effective only when the sun is high. Afternoon sun, lower in the sky, requires side shades that are not so easy to fit to that one.