how big is your yat really ???

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My previous boat was bought as a jeanneau sunrise 35 ,was actually described as 35' in survey , actually when measured was a tad over 33 ' , previous owner had paid for a 35' berth for 10 years .
spotted this one winter when out of water next to a storm 33 .

looking for a replacement fancied Sunfast 37 , but didnt seem to be that much bigger only to discover its short of 36' and if you took the stern platform off the length not a great deal of difference to the sunrise with much straighter scoopless stern .

looked at first 33.7 only to find its really 32'

Some folks win , looked at oldish first 38 , actually 40 foot ,

so how big really is your boat ?


its worth checking , you may be paying more than due in fees based on length , or handicapped on loa and waterlines you dont have , I was !

also pro rata length charges go up at different length benchmarks depending on boatyard/marina etc .

folks find it hard to admit their pride n joy is shorter than they think , but worth finding out .

after all its how you use it that counts ;)
 
markhomer said:
its worth checking , you may be paying more than due in fees based on length , or handicapped on loa and waterlines you dont have , I was !

also pro rata length charges go up at different length benchmarks depending on boatyard/marina etc .
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More complicated than that. Some marinas charge by measured length, some by area (L*B), some by berth size or more commonly for visitors by what it says on the registration document. So making sure you get it "right" when you fill in the form for your SSR is important. Less flexibility with Part 1 as the length is determined by the tonnage survey.

Builders use length measurements in a cavalier way, usually to indicate how the boat fits into peoples' perceptions in the market they are targeting.
 
Ours is described as a 43 and is claimed to be 43'4" overall - though I've never bothered to measure it. The waterline length is claimed to be 42'.

Our marina charges by length and takes a tape measure to it - must dig out the contract some time and check how long they think it is! I did think about taking the anchor off the bow roller before they measured, but came to the conclusion that it would not save enough to be worth the money...
 
They are not as big as you would imagine

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A word of caution here as it can also work in the marinas favour.Our Durour Arpege stated LOA is 9.25m.Marina measures it from the very tip of pushpit to the furtherest sticking out bit of boarding ladder.Wanted to charge us for 9.7m.Now berthing cost are dam near £400 per meter so not having that.Solution-took off boarding ladder,modified pushpit to fold up with hinges and got marina to remeasure.Budget is tight for everyone so can't blame marina for trying to charge for 9.7m as their measurement criteria is in our contract,just leaves a wee bitter taste in mouth that we get squeezed for every penny.Money saved will likely pay for the whole years fuel costs.
 
Pricey preaching from the pulpit

Our hull length 9.9 metres, O/A 10.45. We pay full length in home marina but tend to round to 10 when visiting.
A very expensive pulpit overhang, although the anchor roller bracket sticks out enough to make altering the pulpit less worthwhile.
 
Our boat was advertised as a 39" but the specifications say 38'6". In fact it measured from pulpit/anchor to back of boarding ladder closer to 40' I don't know exactly as its irrelevant since we added davits. It now depends whether the davits have a dinghy suspended from them and/or whether they have been extended or not. (There are bits that slide backwards out of the davits out for the dinghy to locate onto.) I haven't ever got round to measuring the maximum as we are probably up to 46' or so.
 
My boat was designed as 40 ft (12.19m) so I bobbed the nose and tail to bring it down to 11.99m, carefully measured with plumb lines. My reasoning was that some marinas set price bands as e.g. 10 - 11.99 and 12 - 13.99

12m is a critical point as it affects quite a few rules e.g. 10w/25w nav lights, separate steaming & stern lights etc.
 
On deck I'm 35'6". From the tip of the bowsprit to the end of the boom however I'm approaching 50'.

In marinas I bring the bowsprit inboard and tell the office that it's 10m. I've never had anyone stick a tape along it or quibble.
 
Our Bav 36 from 1999 is 11.48m hull length according to the builders certificate which is 37 ft 8 inches.

Marina Veruda in Pula charges in bands so we're in the 11-12m bracket.

Around the town quays and harbours if they ask for the boats papers I'm stuffed and pay for the full length, otherwise I point at the Bavaria 36 stickers and say she's 10.5 m - to be honest I could perhaps replace them with Bavaria 34 stickers and as long as I never berthed next to a Bav 34 I could probably get away with it - after all they all look the same from a distance. ;)
 
HR 46 is actually 48' 6" with our davits and bow sprit 53' 4''. We usually remove the bow sprit and davit extension arms. When making a new contract in the marinas of Europe we declare 15 m our registration document says less but we use that on casual visits
 
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